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MAFNAS. 15 00:01:51,245 --> 00:01:55,583 THERE STILL IS NO SIGN OF BILLIONAIRE LARRY HILLBLOM. 16 00:01:58,819 --> 00:02:01,455 THERE IS THE FAINTEST HOPE THAT LARRY HILLBLOM 17 00:02:01,522 --> 00:02:04,492 MIGHT SOMEHOW BE OUT THERE ALIVE. 18 00:02:53,073 --> 00:02:57,378 Man: HE WAS THE FOUNDER OF A HUGE CORPORATION-- DHL-- 19 00:02:57,445 --> 00:03:01,249 AND HE WAS A REPUTED BILLIONAIRE. 20 00:03:01,315 --> 00:03:03,717 AND HE WAS A GENIUS. 21 00:03:06,086 --> 00:03:08,556 IF YOU TOOK OUT THE SEXUAL PART OF LARRY'S LIFE, 22 00:03:08,622 --> 00:03:10,424 HE WAS A FASCINATING CHARACTER, 23 00:03:10,491 --> 00:03:13,160 A VERY INTERESTING PERSON. 24 00:03:13,227 --> 00:03:17,865 NO ONE EVER REALLY GOT THE FULL PICTURE OF WHO LARRY WAS 25 00:03:17,931 --> 00:03:22,436 BECAUSE LARRY DIDN'T REVEAL HIS FULL SELF TO ANYONE. 26 00:03:32,045 --> 00:03:35,115 Man: WHAT CAME OUT IN THE WEEKS AFTER HIS DISAPPEARANCE 27 00:03:35,182 --> 00:03:38,252 SHOCKED EVEN THOSE WHO THOUGHT THEY KNEW HIM. 28 00:03:42,856 --> 00:03:46,226 LARRY HILLBLOM WAS NOT MARRIED, 29 00:03:46,294 --> 00:03:48,262 AND HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN, 30 00:03:48,329 --> 00:03:50,598 AS FAR AS ANYBODY KNEW. 31 00:04:02,510 --> 00:04:04,244 TRYING TO GRAB A PIECE OF IT. 32 00:04:04,312 --> 00:04:07,348 TRYING TO GRAB A PIECE OF IT. THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THERE. 33 00:04:16,256 --> 00:04:19,727 LARRY CUT A WIDE SWATH THROUGH THE PACIFIC. 34 00:04:19,793 --> 00:04:22,663 HA HA HA! 35 00:04:31,104 --> 00:04:34,608 WHAT WAS IT ABOUT THE STORY THAT INITIALLY INTRIGUED ME? 36 00:04:34,675 --> 00:04:37,277 I DETERMINE THE SUITABILITY OF A SUBJECT FOR A STORY 37 00:04:37,345 --> 00:04:39,447 ON THE BASIS OF THE THREE Cs-- 38 00:04:39,513 --> 00:04:42,583 CASH, CRIME, AND CUNT. 39 00:04:42,650 --> 00:04:44,718 THOSE ARE THE THREE Cs. 40 00:04:44,785 --> 00:04:47,688 UH, CLEARLY, THE LARRY HILLBLOM STORY 41 00:04:47,755 --> 00:04:50,891 INCORPORATED ALL THREE ELEMENTS. 42 00:04:54,395 --> 00:04:57,565 THE OUTLINES OF THE STORY WERE VERY CLEAR GOING IN. 43 00:04:57,631 --> 00:04:59,700 AFTER LARRY'S DISAPPEARANCE, 44 00:04:59,767 --> 00:05:02,002 PROSTITUTES STEPPED FORWARD ON BEHALF OF THEIR CHILDREN, 45 00:05:02,069 --> 00:05:05,506 CLAIMING THAT THEY'D BEEN FATHERED BY THIS RICH AMERICAN. 46 00:05:08,476 --> 00:05:14,415 AND AT THE FRONT OF THIS WHOLE THING, 47 00:05:14,482 --> 00:05:16,417 IS LARRY-- 48 00:05:16,484 --> 00:05:19,019 THE ENIGMA OF WHO THIS PERSON WAS. 49 00:05:19,086 --> 00:05:21,889 BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING DIABOLICAL IN THIS WHOLE THING. 50 00:05:30,964 --> 00:05:32,700 THIS IS IT. 51 00:05:32,766 --> 00:05:35,403 LET'S SEE IF IT'S-- LOOKS LIKE IT'S UNLOCKED. 52 00:05:35,469 --> 00:05:38,506 ( dog barking ) 53 00:05:44,445 --> 00:05:46,380 WOW. 54 00:05:46,447 --> 00:05:48,416 THIS IS IT. 55 00:05:48,482 --> 00:05:50,484 AFTER 13 YEARS. 56 00:05:55,255 --> 00:05:59,493 WHAT A SHAME, HUH? THIS WAS A PRETTY HOUSE. 57 00:06:01,395 --> 00:06:03,030 MY GOD. 58 00:06:03,096 --> 00:06:05,265 IT TOOK HIM SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS 59 00:06:05,332 --> 00:06:07,000 TO BUILD THIS HOUSE. 60 00:06:07,067 --> 00:06:09,803 HE WAS REALLY PROUD OF HOW CHEAP IT WAS. 61 00:06:12,673 --> 00:06:15,108 GOD, THIS IS SAD. 62 00:06:25,419 --> 00:06:27,788 Anderson: I HAPPENED TO BE DOWN AT COCOS ISLAND ONE TIME WITH MY FAMILY, 63 00:06:27,855 --> 00:06:29,957 AND PEOPLE WERE POINTING HIM OUT, 64 00:06:30,023 --> 00:06:31,625 AND THEY WERE SAYING, "YOU KNOW WHO THAT IS?" 65 00:06:31,692 --> 00:06:34,161 I SAID, "NO, WHO'S THAT?" 66 00:06:34,227 --> 00:06:36,363 ZORIS, SHORTS, T-SHIRT. 67 00:06:36,430 --> 00:06:40,133 DIDN'T LOOK LIKE ONE OF THE WEALTHIEST BUSINESSMEN IN THE WORLD. 68 00:06:45,773 --> 00:06:50,811 I FOUND OUT THAT HE WAS THE "H" IN DHL 69 00:06:50,878 --> 00:06:53,581 IT TURNS OUT THAT HE WAS LIVING UP ON SAIPAN 70 00:06:53,647 --> 00:06:55,716 BECAUSE OF TAX REASONS, PRIMARILY, 71 00:06:55,783 --> 00:06:58,519 BUT ALSO BECAUSE HE JUST LIKED THE LIFESTYLE. 72 00:07:18,338 --> 00:07:21,742 LARRY HILLBLOM CAME TO SAIPAN IN THE EARLY 1980s. 73 00:07:21,809 --> 00:07:24,512 SAIPAN IS PART OF MICRONESIA. 74 00:07:26,747 --> 00:07:29,149 IT WAS GIVEN TO THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT 75 00:07:29,216 --> 00:07:32,252 AS A TRUST TERRITORY AFTER WORLD WAR II. 76 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:36,557 TODAY, THIS IS AMERICA'S FARTHEST WESTERN OUTPOST. 77 00:07:40,327 --> 00:07:42,830 PEOPLE WERE MOSTLY JUST CURIOUS ABOUT LARRY. 78 00:07:42,896 --> 00:07:47,200 HE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A, UH-- 79 00:07:47,267 --> 00:07:49,402 I DON'T WANT TO SAY ECCENTRIC. 80 00:07:49,469 --> 00:07:51,839 BUT A LITTLE BIT OF AN UNUSUAL CHARACTER. 81 00:07:51,905 --> 00:07:54,141 I THINK PEOPLE FELT KIND OF GOOD 82 00:07:54,207 --> 00:07:56,143 THAT HE CHOSE TO LIVE OUT IN THE MARIANAS. 83 00:07:56,209 --> 00:07:58,311 THERE MUST BE GOING OUT HERE THAT SOMEBODY THAT RICH-- 84 00:07:58,378 --> 00:07:59,880 WHO COULD LIVE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD-- 85 00:07:59,947 --> 00:08:02,115 DECIDED TO LIVE OUT HERE WITH US. 86 00:08:02,182 --> 00:08:05,485 I THINK THERE WAS A DEEP ANARCHISTIC STRAIN IN LARRY. 87 00:08:05,553 --> 00:08:08,756 HE KNEW HE COULD GET AWAY WITH A GREAT DEAL IN SAIPAN 88 00:08:08,822 --> 00:08:11,124 THAT HE COULDN'T GET AWAY WITH IN AMERICA. 89 00:08:11,191 --> 00:08:13,360 BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER EXPLANATION 90 00:08:13,426 --> 00:08:16,196 FOR SOME OF THE TRULY STRANGE ELEMENTS OF THIS STORY. 91 00:08:16,263 --> 00:08:19,800 WHY, FOR EXAMPLE, DID LARRY NEVER GET A PILOT'S LICENSE? 92 00:08:19,867 --> 00:08:23,904 HE'S FLYING THESE RICKETY OLD AIRPLANES. 93 00:08:23,971 --> 00:08:25,939 MICRONESIA'S ECCENTRIC BILLIONAIRE-- 94 00:08:26,006 --> 00:08:28,876 ITS HISTORY WAS REALLY LARRY HILLBLOM. 95 00:08:28,942 --> 00:08:31,078 LARRY HAD A COUPLE OF PLANES, 96 00:08:31,144 --> 00:08:33,080 AND HE REALLY TREATED THEM LIKE CARS. 97 00:08:33,146 --> 00:08:35,248 HE, LIKE, PARKED IN YOUR GARAGE. 98 00:08:37,417 --> 00:08:40,588 IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM LIKE LARRY HAD A REALLY GOOD MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. 99 00:08:40,654 --> 00:08:42,623 ( laughs ) 100 00:08:44,625 --> 00:08:46,359 LARRY COULD WRITE A CHECK FOR A LEARJET. 101 00:08:46,426 --> 00:08:49,229 BUT LARRY WAS INTERESTED IN OLDER PLANES AS A HOBBY. 102 00:08:49,296 --> 00:08:51,364 AND HE JUST DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A REAL RISK 103 00:08:51,431 --> 00:08:54,167 TO FLY THE PLANE FROM SAIPAN TO THE NEIGHBORING ISLANDS. 104 00:08:54,234 --> 00:08:56,970 I DID. AND SO DID EVERYONE ELSE. HA HA! 105 00:08:57,037 --> 00:08:58,972 OH, NO. I WOULD NEVER FLY WITH HIM. 106 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:01,408 I LIKED TO HUMOR HIM, BUT NOT THAT WAY. 107 00:09:01,474 --> 00:09:04,444 I WOULD ALWAYS SAY, "NEVER, AS LONG AS I LIVE-- 108 00:09:04,511 --> 00:09:06,013 I WILL NEVER FLY WITH YOU." 109 00:09:18,759 --> 00:09:21,194 OH, I NEVER-- I NEVER FLEW WITH HIM. 110 00:10:34,567 --> 00:10:38,438 WELL, THAT WAS QUITE A LANDING COMING IN, YOU KNOW? 111 00:10:38,505 --> 00:10:42,342 ESPECIALLY FOR SOMEONE THAT'S HAD SIX BEERS FOR BREAKFAST. 112 00:10:42,409 --> 00:10:44,945 Calvo: I THINK THAT, BY ANY STANDARD, MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY 113 00:10:45,012 --> 00:10:46,947 THAT LARRY WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 114 00:10:47,014 --> 00:10:48,615 BUT HE WASN'T SEEING SHADOWS, 115 00:10:48,682 --> 00:10:51,618 AND HE WASN'T DOING UNUSUALLY STRANGE THINGS, 116 00:10:51,685 --> 00:10:55,155 OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT MAYBE HE NEVER GREW UP. 117 00:10:55,222 --> 00:10:58,025 ( laughter ) 118 00:10:58,091 --> 00:11:02,495 HE NEVER SPOKE OF HIS HOMETOWN OR HIS FAMILY. 119 00:11:02,562 --> 00:11:07,735 HE DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT HIS FAMILY, 120 00:11:07,801 --> 00:11:10,303 DURING HIS TIME IN SAIPAN. 121 00:11:31,191 --> 00:11:34,027 Woman: LARRY'S DAD AND HIS MOTHER HELEN-- 122 00:11:34,094 --> 00:11:37,731 WE WERE VERY GOOD FRIENDS, VERY GOOD FRIENDS. 123 00:11:37,798 --> 00:11:40,667 AND I REMEMBER GOING OVER TO THE RANCH, 124 00:11:40,734 --> 00:11:42,903 AND LARRY WAS IN A CRIB, 125 00:11:42,970 --> 00:11:45,873 AND HE WAS SO FULL OF ENERGY 126 00:11:45,939 --> 00:11:48,508 THAT HE HAD CHEWED OFF 127 00:11:48,575 --> 00:11:53,113 CLEAR AROUND THE TOP RUNG OF THE CRIB. 128 00:11:53,180 --> 00:11:55,749 Man: HE LOOKED LIKE A LITTLE KID, 129 00:11:55,816 --> 00:12:00,020 BUT HE JUST DID HIS OWN THING, 130 00:12:00,087 --> 00:12:02,589 YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WOULD LOOK AT SOMETHING 131 00:12:02,655 --> 00:12:04,691 AND THEY WOULD JUST SEE WHAT'S THERE. 132 00:12:04,758 --> 00:12:07,160 HE WOULD SEE WHAT POSSIBILITIES WERE THERE. 133 00:12:07,227 --> 00:12:09,696 I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST THOUGHT, 134 00:12:09,763 --> 00:12:13,901 "OH, THIS GUY IS SOMEWHERE OUT THERE WHERE THE BUSES DON'T GO." 135 00:12:13,967 --> 00:12:16,136 HE LOVED HOWARD HUGHES. 136 00:12:16,203 --> 00:12:19,406 HE THOUGHT HOWARD HUGHES WAS A VERY FASCINATING PERSON, 137 00:12:19,472 --> 00:12:22,109 AND HE LIKED THE MYSTERY OF HOWARD HUGHES. 138 00:12:22,175 --> 00:12:24,711 DURING THE TIME WE WERE GROWING UP, 139 00:12:24,778 --> 00:12:28,381 HOWARD HUGHES WAS RECLUSIVE. 140 00:12:28,448 --> 00:12:31,518 NO ONE KNEW WHERE HE WAS AT OR WHAT HE WAS DOING. 141 00:12:31,584 --> 00:12:33,787 AND THAT FASCINATING LARRY. 142 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,895 WE'D BE WALKING DOWN THE STREET, 143 00:12:41,962 --> 00:12:43,797 AND HE WOULD DISAPPEAR. 144 00:12:45,265 --> 00:12:48,068 TWO OR THREE BLOCKS LATER, HE'D SHOW UP. 145 00:12:48,135 --> 00:12:49,970 YOU'D NEVER KNOW WHEN HE WAS GONNA SHOW UP 146 00:12:50,037 --> 00:12:52,205 OR TAKE OFF OR-- 147 00:12:52,272 --> 00:12:54,141 WHEN WE WERE ROOMMATES IN COLLEGE, 148 00:12:54,207 --> 00:12:56,844 WE WOULDN'T SEE HIM FOR DAYS. 149 00:12:56,910 --> 00:12:59,446 I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE WENT. 150 00:13:00,881 --> 00:13:03,817 NEVER DID ASK HIM. HEH. 151 00:13:05,418 --> 00:13:07,420 Scheline: WHAT SURPRISED ME MORE THAN ANYTHING 152 00:13:07,487 --> 00:13:09,823 WAS THE FACT THAT, WHEN HE WENT OFF TO LAW SCHOOL, 153 00:13:09,890 --> 00:13:11,825 HE RARELY CAME BACK TO TOWN. 154 00:13:11,892 --> 00:13:18,298 UM, IT ALMOST WAS AS IF HE HAD SEVERED HIS TIES WITH THE COMMUNITY. 155 00:13:29,576 --> 00:13:33,947 Man: I KNEW LARRY SINCE HE WAS A SECOND-YEAR STUDENT HERE 156 00:13:34,014 --> 00:13:36,216 IN THE LATE 1960s. 157 00:13:36,283 --> 00:13:41,188 AND HE WAS ALWAYS COMING FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. 158 00:13:41,254 --> 00:13:44,691 HE CAME FROM A DIFFERENT WAVELENGTH 159 00:13:44,757 --> 00:13:46,659 THAN THE OTHER STUDENTS. 160 00:13:46,726 --> 00:13:49,029 SO, I SORT OF TOOK TO HIM, IN ANY EVENT. 161 00:13:49,096 --> 00:13:50,964 I GOT TO KNOW HIM THAT WAY. 162 00:13:51,031 --> 00:13:53,066 A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT HE LOOKED LIKE A HICK. 163 00:13:53,133 --> 00:13:54,767 HE'D SORT OF SLOUCH WHEN HE WALKED, 164 00:13:54,834 --> 00:13:57,170 AND HE DIDN'T CARE HOW HE DRESSED. 165 00:13:57,237 --> 00:13:59,506 HE HAD NO MONEY, OR VERY LITTLE. 166 00:13:59,572 --> 00:14:02,075 AND, IN ORDER TO GENERATE SOME INCOME, 167 00:14:02,142 --> 00:14:04,211 HE WOULD PICK UP DOCUMENTS 168 00:14:04,277 --> 00:14:07,180 THAT HAD TO BE DELIVERED THE NEXT DAY IN LOS ANGELES. 169 00:14:07,247 --> 00:14:09,582 HE WOULD TAKE THE LAST PLANE OUT OF SAN FRANCISCO, 170 00:14:09,649 --> 00:14:11,518 GET THE FIRST PLANE BACK IN THE MORNING, 171 00:14:11,584 --> 00:14:14,054 GET TO SAN FRANCISCO AT 8:00, AND GO TO CLASS. 172 00:14:14,121 --> 00:14:16,489 HE DID THAT FIVE NIGHTS A WEEK. 173 00:14:18,258 --> 00:14:20,727 AND THAT'S HOW HE GOT THE IDEA. 174 00:14:20,793 --> 00:14:23,964 I REMEMBER HIM TELLING ME THAT HE WAS FORMING A COMPANY. 175 00:14:24,031 --> 00:14:26,199 I REMEMBER IT VERY WELL. 176 00:14:30,637 --> 00:14:34,474 TAKE YOURSELF BACK TO THE MIDDLE 1960s. 177 00:14:42,249 --> 00:14:45,518 THERE WERE NO FAXES, THERE WAS CERTAINLY NO EMAIL. 178 00:14:45,585 --> 00:14:48,455 AND IF YOU HAD TO HAVE A SIGNED CONTRACT, 179 00:14:48,521 --> 00:14:50,557 THE ONLY WAY TO GET IT WAS IN THE MAIL. 180 00:14:50,623 --> 00:14:52,993 THERE CERTAINLY WASN'T FEDERAL EXPRESS IN THOSE DAYS. 181 00:14:54,161 --> 00:14:56,496 DHL STARTED IN 1969. 182 00:14:56,563 --> 00:14:59,899 THAT WAS THE YEAR MAN FIRST WALKED ON THE MOON, 183 00:14:59,967 --> 00:15:01,734 THE FIRST 747 LANDED... 184 00:15:01,801 --> 00:15:06,006 AND DHL OPENED UP BUSINESS COMMUNICATIONS 185 00:15:06,073 --> 00:15:08,341 AROUND THE WORLD. 186 00:15:08,408 --> 00:15:12,479 IT DIDN'T BECOME AN INTERNATIONAL COMPANY RIGHT AWAY. 187 00:15:12,545 --> 00:15:15,782 BUT LARRY HAD A TALENT FOR BUSINESS ORGANIZATION, 188 00:15:15,848 --> 00:15:19,252 AND HE WAS A MAJOR MOVER, IF NOT THE EXCLUSIVE MOVER IN THE WHOLE THING. 189 00:15:19,319 --> 00:15:22,089 Corral: LARRY WAS 26 YEARS OLD. 190 00:15:22,155 --> 00:15:24,992 HE WAS A VERY NERVOUS TYPE OF A GUY. 191 00:15:25,058 --> 00:15:27,127 SEEMED LIKE HE WAS ALWAYS SHAKING, 192 00:15:27,194 --> 00:15:28,962 AND HE WAS REAL, REAL SHY. 193 00:15:29,029 --> 00:15:31,564 BUT HE WAS BRILLIANTLY ECCENTRIC. 194 00:15:33,033 --> 00:15:34,467 IN THE EARLY DAYS, 195 00:15:34,534 --> 00:15:36,636 DHL HAD A TOUGH TIME SELLING THEIR SERVICE 196 00:15:36,703 --> 00:15:39,072 BECAUSE PEOPLE, NUMBER ONE, DIDN'T BELIEVE 197 00:15:39,139 --> 00:15:41,108 WE COULD DO WHAT WE WERE SAYING. 198 00:15:41,174 --> 00:15:44,611 I SERVED AS HIS COURIER. WE'D HAVE FREE TICKETS-- TWO FO THEM. 199 00:15:44,677 --> 00:15:47,780 AND WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING BUT CHECK THIS BAGGAGE. 200 00:15:47,847 --> 00:15:51,051 AT ONE POINT, THE FBI CAME IN AND MET WITH LARRY 201 00:15:51,118 --> 00:15:55,088 BECAUSE THEY WERE INVESTIGATING WHY WE WERE GIVING AWAY FREE TICKETS. 202 00:15:55,155 --> 00:15:58,758 SO, THEN THE FBI BECAME COURIERS FOR US, 203 00:15:58,825 --> 00:16:03,030 YOU KNOW, ON THEIR OFF TIME, IF THEY WANTED TO GO ON VACATION. HA! 204 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:08,168 THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE 205 00:16:08,235 --> 00:16:10,270 STARTED GIVING DHL SOME TROUBLE, 206 00:16:10,337 --> 00:16:12,239 ALLEGING THAT THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE WERE CARRYING 207 00:16:12,305 --> 00:16:14,274 WAS REALLY FIRST-CLASS MAIL. 208 00:16:14,341 --> 00:16:16,143 IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND TODAY, 209 00:16:16,209 --> 00:16:20,013 BUT BACK THEN, THERE WAS ONE MAIL SERVICE, 210 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,249 AND THEY HAD A MONOPOLY. 211 00:16:24,284 --> 00:16:26,319 LARRY SUED THE POST OFFICE AND WAS SUCCESSFUL 212 00:16:26,386 --> 00:16:28,988 IN BREAKING THE MONOPOLY IN THE UNITED STATES. 213 00:16:29,056 --> 00:16:30,823 IT WAS JUST AMAZING-- 214 00:16:30,890 --> 00:16:35,028 NOT ONLY FOR DHL, BUT FOR OTHER COMPANIES AS WELL. 215 00:16:36,463 --> 00:16:38,931 IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE TRANSFER 216 00:16:38,998 --> 00:16:41,068 OF WHAT WAS THEN DOCUMENTS WORLDWIDE. 217 00:16:41,134 --> 00:16:44,037 FIRST HONOLULU AND SAN FRANCISCO, 218 00:16:44,104 --> 00:16:46,173 AND THEN IT EXPANDED TO THE FAR EAST 219 00:16:46,239 --> 00:16:48,275 AND PLACES LIKE ABU DHABI AND BEIRUT. 220 00:16:48,341 --> 00:16:51,178 IMAGINE OPENING UP A CITY IN THE MIDDLE EAST, 221 00:16:51,244 --> 00:17:01,688 AND THEY HAVE NO STREET ADDRESSES, 222 00:17:01,754 --> 00:17:07,227 I JUST THINK HE SAW THE WORLD AS SMALL AS IT REALLY IS. 223 00:17:10,063 --> 00:17:12,532 ( crowd chattering ) 224 00:17:14,067 --> 00:17:15,968 YOU HAVE TO TRACE TODAY'S GLOBALISM-- 225 00:17:16,035 --> 00:17:20,273 THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF GLOBALISM--TO LARRY HILLBLOM. 226 00:17:20,340 --> 00:17:22,609 LARRY CREATED AN INDUSTRY 227 00:17:22,675 --> 00:17:25,412 THAT HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON THE WORLD. 228 00:17:28,148 --> 00:17:31,184 ( airplane engine roaring ) 229 00:17:34,254 --> 00:17:37,224 Manso: SO, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A TERRIBLY INVENTIVE GUY, 230 00:17:37,290 --> 00:17:42,495 A TERRIBLY AMBITIOUS GUY. 231 00:17:42,562 --> 00:17:46,666 YOU WOULD EXPECT A VERY A CAREFULLY DRAWN-UP WILL-- 232 00:17:46,733 --> 00:17:49,369 ALL THE Is DOTTED, THE Ts CROSSED, AND SO FORTH-- 233 00:17:49,436 --> 00:17:52,105 AND THAT APPEARS NOT TO HAVE BEEN THE CASE HERE. 234 00:17:54,807 --> 00:17:59,179 LARRY HILLBLOM'S ESTATE WAS NOT IN TIP-TOP SHAPE 235 00:17:59,246 --> 00:18:01,114 AT THE TIME OF HIS DEATH. 236 00:18:01,181 --> 00:18:04,484 THE LION'S SHARE OF THE MONEY WAS LEFT TO MEDICAL RESEARCH. 237 00:18:04,551 --> 00:18:05,952 BUT THERE WERE HOLES IN THIS THING. 238 00:18:06,018 --> 00:18:08,688 IT SAID NOTHING ABOUT ANY KIDS. 239 00:18:11,858 --> 00:18:14,227 THE ONLY SURPRISING THING WAS THAT LARRY WAS AN ATTORNEY, 240 00:18:14,294 --> 00:18:21,668 AND YET LARRY LEFT OUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ANY PROGENY IN HIS WILL. 241 00:18:21,734 --> 00:18:24,671 ANY ATTORNEY WILL TELL YOU THAT IF YOU PUT PROGENY, 242 00:18:24,737 --> 00:18:27,274 OR THE POSSIBILITY OF OFFSPRING, IN THE WILL, 243 00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:31,278 AND THEN EITHER GIVE THEM NOTHING OR GIVE THEM VERY LITTLE, 244 00:18:31,344 --> 00:18:33,280 YOU'VE COVERED THAT POSSIBILITY. 245 00:18:33,346 --> 00:18:35,148 LARRY JUST DIDN'T DO THAT. 246 00:18:35,215 --> 00:18:38,218 AND THAT'S WHEN THE TROUBLE STARTED. 247 00:18:40,887 --> 00:18:42,855 GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. 248 00:18:42,922 --> 00:18:45,392 I'M TRAVIS KAUFFMAN. AND I'M DEBRA LEE. 249 00:18:45,458 --> 00:18:47,527 AN 11-YEAR PALAUAN BOY 250 00:18:47,594 --> 00:18:49,296 IS CLAIMING TO BE THE SOLE HEIR 251 00:18:49,362 --> 00:18:51,198 TO THE HILLBLOM EMPIRE. 252 00:18:51,264 --> 00:18:53,833 TODAY IN SUPERIOR COURT, THE CHILD'S MOTHER, KAELANI KINNEY, 253 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:56,503 CLAIMS SHE HAD SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH LARRY HILLBLOM. 254 00:18:56,569 --> 00:18:58,671 SHE GOT PREGNANT AND HAD A CHILD. 255 00:18:58,738 --> 00:19:01,341 HIS NAME IS JUNIOR LARRY HILLBROOM. 256 00:19:01,408 --> 00:19:03,310 HE'S 11 YEARS OLD. 257 00:19:03,376 --> 00:19:05,712 KAELANI KINNEY CLAIMS HE WAS ACTUALLY 258 00:19:05,778 --> 00:19:08,215 HILLBLOM'S ILLEGITIMATE SON. 259 00:19:08,281 --> 00:19:10,383 IF THEY CAN PROVE THAT IN COURT, 260 00:19:10,450 --> 00:19:12,485 HE WOULD BECOME ONE OF THE RICHEST LITTLE BOYS 261 00:19:12,552 --> 00:19:14,721 IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. 262 00:19:16,556 --> 00:19:18,525 Manso: THE CLAIMANTS WERE GOING UP 263 00:19:18,591 --> 00:19:21,328 AGAINST THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE ESTATE. 264 00:19:21,394 --> 00:19:23,730 LARRY'S BUSINESS LAWYER, DONNICI, 265 00:19:23,796 --> 00:19:25,965 WAS RUNNING THE TRUST FOR MEDICAL RESEARCH. 266 00:19:26,032 --> 00:19:28,668 CHAIRMAN OF THE CHARITABLE TRUST, PETER DONNICI, 267 00:19:28,735 --> 00:19:31,671 PROPELLED THE IMAGE OF A MONEY-GRUBBING WOMAN OUT ON THE TAKE, 268 00:19:31,738 --> 00:19:34,707 TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A DEAD MAN'S ESTATE. 269 00:19:34,774 --> 00:19:37,744 AND LARRY HAD SIGNED THE BANK OF SAIPAN 270 00:19:37,810 --> 00:19:41,548 AS THE EXECUTOR, OR THE MANAGER, OF HIS ASSETS. 271 00:19:43,683 --> 00:19:46,886 THE BANK'S FRONT GUY WAS JOE WAECHTER. 272 00:19:46,953 --> 00:19:49,055 JOE WAECHTER, EXECUTOR OF THE ESTATE, 273 00:19:49,121 --> 00:19:52,225 DENIED LARRY HILLBLOM HAD ILLEGITIMATE CHILDREN. 274 00:19:52,292 --> 00:19:55,295 I DON'T KNOW WHOSE KID THIS IS, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT LARRY HILLBLOM'S. 275 00:19:55,362 --> 00:19:58,365 THE RESPONSIBLE THING WOULD'VE BEEN TO TURN TO THE CLAIMANTS 276 00:19:58,431 --> 00:19:59,966 AND SAY, "LOOK, MAYBE THEY ARE, 277 00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:02,168 MAYBE THEY AREN'T LARRY'S KIDS. LET'S FIND OUT." 278 00:20:02,235 --> 00:20:05,104 THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE CORRECT RESPONSE FOR THEM TO MAKE. 279 00:20:05,171 --> 00:20:06,606 THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT. 280 00:20:09,842 --> 00:20:11,778 JOE WAECHTER WAS A LONGTIME FRIEND 281 00:20:11,844 --> 00:20:14,814 AND BUSINESS MANAGER FOR LARRY. 282 00:20:14,881 --> 00:20:18,551 WAECHTER HAD STARTED WITH DHL EARLY IN THE DHL DAYS, 283 00:20:18,618 --> 00:20:21,654 RAN DHL UNITED STATES FOR A WHILE. 284 00:20:21,721 --> 00:20:25,525 AND PETER DONNICI HAD HELPED OUT LARRY TREMENDOUSLY 285 00:20:25,592 --> 00:20:28,060 IN THE EARLY DAYS OF DHL. 286 00:20:28,127 --> 00:20:31,464 DONNICI PRETTY MUCH BECAME THE LAWYER FOR DHL. 287 00:20:32,965 --> 00:20:35,302 THERE WAS NO DIRECT GIFT TO JOE WAECHTER 288 00:20:35,368 --> 00:20:36,803 OR PETE DONNICI. 289 00:20:36,869 --> 00:20:39,071 SO, I'M SURE THERE WAS JEALOUSY AND RESENTMENT. 290 00:20:39,138 --> 00:20:44,277 WHY SHOULD THESE WOMEN MAKE SO MUCH MONEY, YET THEY GET NOTHING? 291 00:20:44,344 --> 00:20:47,414 IT WAS ALTOGETHER IN THEIR INTEREST TO PRESERVE THAT MONEY, 292 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,483 BECAUSE THE TRUSTEES ARE LEGALLY ENTITLED 293 00:20:50,550 --> 00:20:52,685 TO A PERCENT OF INCOME GENERATED BY ASSETS. 294 00:20:52,752 --> 00:20:55,555 IF YOU'RE ADMINISTERING A BILLION-DOLLAR TRUST, 295 00:20:55,622 --> 00:20:58,090 THIS IS NOT SMALL POTATOES WHERE I COME FROM. 296 00:20:58,157 --> 00:21:00,627 THIS IS REAL MONEY. 297 00:21:06,433 --> 00:21:10,303 GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO ISLAND FOCUS. I'M GRACE LEE. 298 00:21:10,370 --> 00:21:13,039 IN A WAY, THE DEATH OF LATE BILLIONAIRE LARRY HILLBLOM 299 00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:16,676 REMAINS OPEN-ENDED, HIS BODY NEVER RECOVERED. 300 00:21:16,743 --> 00:21:18,878 AND SO IT IS WITH THE COURT CASE 301 00:21:18,945 --> 00:21:21,714 OVER THE DISTRIBUTION OVER HIS MASSIVE ESTATE. 302 00:21:21,781 --> 00:21:26,453 THERE IS AN ONGOING BATTLE TO KEEP THE KIDS FROM GETTING ANY MONEY. 303 00:21:29,522 --> 00:21:32,459 THE HINGE ON WHICH THE WHOLE DRAMA TURNED 304 00:21:32,525 --> 00:21:37,330 IS THE ENTRY OF LUJAN. 305 00:21:37,397 --> 00:21:40,967 I CAME INTO THE CASE TO REPRESENT JUNIOR HILLBROOM. 306 00:21:46,373 --> 00:21:48,541 I'VE NEVER HELD MYSELF UP AS A-- 307 00:21:48,608 --> 00:21:51,578 AS AN INTELLECTUAL LAWYER. 308 00:21:51,644 --> 00:21:54,481 GIVE ME THE FACTS, AND I'LL ARGUE. 309 00:21:54,547 --> 00:21:58,084 IF IT'S RED, AND YOU WANT IT TO LOOK GREEN, 310 00:21:58,150 --> 00:22:00,720 THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MAKE IT LOOK GREEN. 311 00:22:00,787 --> 00:22:05,525 THE HILLBLOM CASE WAS MY FIRST BIG PUBLIC CASE. 312 00:22:07,093 --> 00:22:09,529 AND DAVID ASKED IF I WOULD BE INTERESTED 313 00:22:09,596 --> 00:22:11,498 IN COMING INTO THE CASE. 314 00:22:11,564 --> 00:22:14,066 AND I SAID THAT I WAS, FOR SURE. 315 00:22:14,133 --> 00:22:17,970 DAVID TOLD ME IT WAS LARRY'S KID, AND I BELIEVE HIM. 316 00:22:26,913 --> 00:22:30,483 Newscaster: DONNICI CALLED JUNIOR LARRY HILLBROOM'S ATTORNEYS "GREEDY LAWYERS, 317 00:22:30,550 --> 00:22:34,353 TRYING TO LINE THEIR POCKETS WITH THE LATE BILLIONAIRE'S MONEY." 318 00:22:34,421 --> 00:22:37,390 PROBABLY THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO EXTORT FROM AN ESTATE, 319 00:22:37,457 --> 00:22:39,058 TRYING TO FORCE US TO SETTLE 320 00:22:39,125 --> 00:22:41,293 SO THAT THEY CAN GET SOME MONEY QUICKLY, 321 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:42,562 WITHOUT WORKING FOR IT. 322 00:22:42,629 --> 00:22:45,231 Lujan: I SAW IT, AS A LAWYER, 323 00:22:45,297 --> 00:22:50,403 THAT I WAS REPRESENTING SOMEONE WHO WAS, FRANKLY, A HELPLESS KID. 324 00:22:52,071 --> 00:22:55,475 LUJAN IS DAVID GOING UP AGAINST A GOLIATH. 325 00:22:58,344 --> 00:23:00,647 YOU HAVE THE SAN FRANCISCO PEOPLE 326 00:23:00,713 --> 00:23:02,749 THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL BE ABLE 327 00:23:02,815 --> 00:23:04,684 TO DO WHAT THEY WANT IN SAIPAN. 328 00:23:04,751 --> 00:23:07,554 THERE WAS NO ONE TO STOP THEM 329 00:23:07,620 --> 00:23:09,922 OR STAND IN THEIR WAY. 330 00:23:17,163 --> 00:23:19,432 Dotts: THERE'S ACTUALLY ALWAYS BEEN A HISTORY OF THAT, 331 00:23:19,499 --> 00:23:22,635 THAT THE PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND SLEEP UNDER COCONUT TREES 332 00:23:22,702 --> 00:23:25,071 AND REALLY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE LAW. 333 00:23:25,137 --> 00:23:30,176 SO, QUITE OFTEN, ATTORNEYS ARRIVE FROM OFF-ISLAND 334 00:23:30,242 --> 00:23:33,079 TO KIND OF TEACH US THE WAY THINGS WORK. 335 00:23:35,047 --> 00:23:38,284 THE WORST THING ANYONE CAN DO IN BATTLE 336 00:23:38,350 --> 00:23:43,155 IS TO THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE SMARTER THAN THE OTHER GUY. 337 00:23:49,295 --> 00:23:51,230 THE WHOLE CASE GETS CHAOTIC. 338 00:23:51,297 --> 00:23:53,165 IT GOES BACK TO, YOU KNOW, 339 00:23:53,232 --> 00:23:56,703 THE VERY FUGITIVE NATURE OF LARRY'S EXISTENCE. 340 00:23:59,305 --> 00:24:04,410 WHY DIDN'T LARRY LEAVE A VERY TIDY ESTATE? 341 00:24:04,477 --> 00:24:08,515 THERE ARE MYSTERIES TO THIS STORY THAT DO NOT GO AWAY. 342 00:24:08,581 --> 00:24:10,282 LARRY WAS SCARED OF DYING. 343 00:24:10,349 --> 00:24:12,652 LARRY DIDN'T WANT TO DIE AT A YOUNG AGE, 344 00:24:12,719 --> 00:24:15,622 AND HE DELIBERATELY WAS CAREFUL 345 00:24:15,688 --> 00:24:17,590 ABOUT THE FOOD HE ATE, 346 00:24:17,657 --> 00:24:20,760 AND HE WOULD EAT ALL SORTS OF THINGS TO LOWER CHOLESTEROL, 347 00:24:20,827 --> 00:24:22,895 AND HE WOULD NOT SMOKE. 348 00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:25,297 AND WHEN HE REACHED THE AGE OF 51, I THINK IT WAS, 349 00:24:25,364 --> 00:24:27,834 HE SAID, "YOU KNOW, I'VE REACHED THE MAGIC AGE. 350 00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:30,503 "A LOT OF MEN DIE BEFORE THEY GET TO THIS AGE 351 00:24:30,570 --> 00:24:32,138 "FROM STROKES AND HEART ATTACKS. 352 00:24:32,204 --> 00:24:33,906 "AND IF YOU CAN GET TO THIS AGE, 353 00:24:33,973 --> 00:24:35,908 YOU'LL PROBABLY LIVE TO BE AN OLD MAN." 354 00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:38,645 LARRY WAS NOT A DAREDEVIL AT ALL, 355 00:24:38,711 --> 00:24:42,014 EXCEPT FLYING AIRPLANES. 356 00:24:51,390 --> 00:24:53,593 IT WAS A TEST THAT WASN'T PASSED. 357 00:24:53,660 --> 00:24:55,427 WELL-KNOWN BUSINESSMAN LARRY HILLBLOM 358 00:24:55,494 --> 00:24:57,630 WAS TRYING OUT A NEW ENGINE ON HIS AIRPLANE. 359 00:24:57,697 --> 00:25:00,399 SOMETHING WENT WRONG JUST BEFORE IT CRASHED ON TINIAN 360 00:25:00,466 --> 00:25:02,068 YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. 361 00:25:02,134 --> 00:25:03,936 ALTHOUGH THERE WERE DEEP GASHES TO HIS FACE, 362 00:25:04,003 --> 00:25:06,272 HILLBLOM SUFFERED NO BRAIN DAMAGE. 363 00:25:06,338 --> 00:25:09,208 HOWEVER, HE WILL NEED MAJOR FACIAL RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGERY. 364 00:25:09,275 --> 00:25:12,111 Man: LARRY WAS CERTAINLY CONSCIOUS WHEN HE ARRIVED. 365 00:25:12,178 --> 00:25:16,282 HE'D OBVIOUSLY HAD A LOT OF FACIAL ASYMMETRY 366 00:25:16,348 --> 00:25:17,850 BECAUSE OF THE INJURIES, 367 00:25:17,917 --> 00:25:20,286 WHICH WERE PRIMARILY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HIS FACE. 368 00:25:20,352 --> 00:25:23,455 BASICALLY-- AND THIS IS A HUMAN SKULL-- 369 00:25:23,522 --> 00:25:26,292 IT INVOLVED THIS PART OF THE FACE. 370 00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:28,828 THE SCRUB NURSE-- THE PERSON WHO HANDS YOU YOUR INSTRUMENTS-- 371 00:25:28,895 --> 00:25:30,496 SAID, "I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN ANYBODY 372 00:25:30,563 --> 00:25:32,999 HAVE THIS MANY PLATES AND SCREWS IN THEM IN MY LIFE." 373 00:25:33,065 --> 00:25:35,668 WE HAD THAT MANY FRACTURES TO PUT BACK TOGETHER. 374 00:25:35,735 --> 00:25:40,106 THE HEALING PROCEEDED PERFECTLY NORMALLY. 375 00:25:40,172 --> 00:25:42,541 SO, WHAT HAPPENED AND WHEN IT HAPPENED-- 376 00:25:42,609 --> 00:25:44,744 WE CAN NEVER PUT IT TOGETHER. 377 00:25:44,811 --> 00:25:48,247 WE REALIZED HE WASN'T SEEING IN THE RIGHT EYE. 378 00:25:48,314 --> 00:25:50,717 IT WAS VERY-- IT WAS A HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT TO BOTH OF US-- 379 00:25:50,783 --> 00:25:52,719 I'M SURE PARTICULARLY TO LARRY. 380 00:25:53,986 --> 00:25:55,722 Man: THE RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGERY 381 00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:58,224 MADE HIS FACE LOOK A LITTLE BIT UNREAL. 382 00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:01,393 REGARDING THAT ACCIDENT, 383 00:26:01,460 --> 00:26:03,529 HAS THERE BEEN ANY FOLLOW-UP WITH THE F.A.A. 384 00:26:03,596 --> 00:26:05,965 ABOUT YOUR LICENSABILITY TO FLY IN THAT PLANE? 385 00:26:06,032 --> 00:26:07,767 YEAH, BUT THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACCIDENT. 386 00:26:07,834 --> 00:26:10,402 THE ACCIDENT IS AN ACCIDENT QUESTION, 387 00:26:10,469 --> 00:26:13,239 AND I DON'T THINK THE F.A.A. EVER FOUND THE CAUSE. 388 00:26:13,305 --> 00:26:15,541 I MEAN, WE'RE PRETTY SURE WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT, UH, 389 00:26:15,608 --> 00:26:18,444 THE CARBURETOR-- SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH THE CARBURETOR, 390 00:26:18,510 --> 00:26:19,979 AND IT CAME OUT AT 200 FEET. 391 00:26:20,046 --> 00:26:21,814 AND ACTUALLY, WHAT I HEARD FROM THE F.A.A. 392 00:26:21,881 --> 00:26:23,582 IS I DID EVERYTHING RIGHT. 393 00:26:23,650 --> 00:26:26,252 I SHUT THE FUEL OFF, I SHUT THE MASTER SWITCH OFF. 394 00:26:26,318 --> 00:26:28,788 IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD CRASH LANDING, AS FAR AS CRASH LANDINGS GO. 395 00:26:28,855 --> 00:26:30,589 THAT COVERS THE ACCIDENT. 396 00:26:30,657 --> 00:26:32,792 HOW ABOUT THE QUESTION OF WHETHER YOU WERE LICENSED 397 00:26:32,859 --> 00:26:34,293 TO BE FLYING THE PLANE AT THE TIME? 398 00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:36,128 HAS THERE BEEN ANY FOLLOW-UP ON THAT? 399 00:26:36,195 --> 00:26:37,897 WELL, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY FOLLOW-UP NOW, 400 00:26:37,964 --> 00:26:40,399 BUT THERE IS NO FOLLOW UP. I MEAN, YOU-- 401 00:26:40,466 --> 00:26:42,669 WHEN YOU'RE NOT LICENSED, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO FLY, BUT THAT'S IT. 402 00:26:42,735 --> 00:26:44,971 I MEAN, UH... 403 00:26:45,037 --> 00:26:47,573 THE SORT OF BITTERSWEET COMMENT THAT STUCK IN MY MIND-- 404 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,677 LARRY SAYS, "WELL, NOW I NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANOTHER AIRPLANE CRASH, 405 00:26:50,743 --> 00:26:55,181 "BECAUSE THE ODDS OF GETTING INTO TWO AIRPLANE CRASHES IN ONE'S LIFETIME 406 00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:57,016 "IS SO REMOTE THAT IT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN. 407 00:26:57,083 --> 00:26:59,652 IT'S NEVER ANYTHING I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT." 408 00:27:04,223 --> 00:27:06,826 WHEN I WAS FIRST APPROACHED ABOUT THE CASE, 409 00:27:06,893 --> 00:27:10,596 I HAD A-- YOU KNOW, I HAD AN IDEA 410 00:27:10,663 --> 00:27:11,998 ABOUT THIS CLAIM. 411 00:27:12,064 --> 00:27:14,333 WHEN LARRY WAS ALIVE, 412 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,403 I WOULD RUN INTO LARRY ALL THE TIME. 413 00:27:17,469 --> 00:27:20,807 EVERYONE WOULD TEASE LARRY IN FRONT OF ME, 414 00:27:20,873 --> 00:27:22,408 THAT HE'S GOT A KID. 415 00:27:22,474 --> 00:27:24,210 AND OF COURSE I JUST KEPT MY MOUTH SHUT. 416 00:27:24,276 --> 00:27:27,546 YOU KNOW, BUT MY MIND'S REGISTERING ALL THIS. 417 00:27:27,613 --> 00:27:29,281 LARRY DENIED IT. 418 00:27:29,348 --> 00:27:32,018 BUT WHEN HE WOULD LEAVE, I WOULD ASK, "IS THAT TRUE?" 419 00:27:32,084 --> 00:27:35,822 AND THEY'D SAY, "YEAH, HE'S GOT A BOY DOWN THERE." 420 00:27:37,589 --> 00:27:41,027 Dotts: THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A RUMOR ABOUT THE BOY FROM PALAU. 421 00:27:42,895 --> 00:27:45,031 LARRY HAD BEEN IN PALAU, 422 00:27:45,097 --> 00:27:46,999 AND HE HAD MET KAELANI KINNEY, 423 00:27:47,066 --> 00:27:51,704 AND THEY HAD HAD BASICALLY A ONE-NIGHT RELATIONSHIP. 424 00:27:54,807 --> 00:27:59,211 Lujan: AND THE BOY GREW UP IN HIS GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE. 425 00:28:01,781 --> 00:28:04,383 WITH A PICTURE OF LARRY. 426 00:28:05,651 --> 00:28:07,787 "THAT'S YOUR FATHER." 427 00:28:12,091 --> 00:28:13,826 "HE'S NOT MY KID. IT BELONGS TO SOMEBODY ELSE." 428 00:28:13,893 --> 00:28:16,262 HE AND I WERE GOOD FRIENDS, AND ONE DAY I DID ASK HIM. 429 00:28:16,328 --> 00:28:17,964 I SAID, "LARRY, JUST BETWEEN YOU AND ME-- 430 00:28:18,030 --> 00:28:19,866 "I PROMISE I WON'T TELL ANYBODY-- 431 00:28:19,932 --> 00:28:22,735 ARE YOU HIS FATHER?" 432 00:28:24,436 --> 00:28:26,739 I PROMISED I WOULDN'T TELL ANYONE. 433 00:28:26,806 --> 00:28:29,909 ( laughs ) 434 00:28:36,849 --> 00:28:38,951 IN THE OLD DAYS, 435 00:28:39,018 --> 00:28:41,988 GUESS WHAT THE BEST PROOF WAS? 436 00:28:42,054 --> 00:28:44,123 BRINGING THE CHILD IN 437 00:28:44,190 --> 00:28:47,259 AND SHOWING THE JUDGE HOW THE BOY LOOKS-- 438 00:28:47,326 --> 00:28:49,461 YOU KNOW, SPITTING IMAGE OF THE FATHER. 439 00:28:52,164 --> 00:28:54,166 Jones: IT WAS AN ODD SITUATION 440 00:28:54,233 --> 00:28:58,771 IN THAT THERE WAS NO BODY FOUND FOR LARRY TO OBTAIN DNA. 441 00:29:05,044 --> 00:29:07,814 LARRY JUST DISAPPEARED. 442 00:29:16,355 --> 00:29:19,058 HE ONLY BODY THAT WASN'T FOUND WAS LARRY'S. 443 00:29:19,125 --> 00:29:21,093 YOU WOULD THINK THAT SOMEONE LIKE HIM-- 444 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,595 WHEN THIS GUY FOSSET DISAPPEARED, 445 00:29:23,662 --> 00:29:26,565 THEY SEARCHED EVERYWHERE. THEY SPENT A FORTUNE LOOKING FOR HIM. 446 00:29:26,632 --> 00:29:30,469 WHEN LARRY DISAPPEARED, THE SEARCH WAS STOPPED VERY QUICKLY. 447 00:29:30,536 --> 00:29:32,738 I THINK THEY DIDN'T WANT TO FIND HIS BODY 448 00:29:32,805 --> 00:29:35,307 BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THERE WAS A CHILD OUT THERE. 449 00:29:35,374 --> 00:29:38,377 YOU FIND THE BODY, YOU FIND DNA. 450 00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:43,382 Dotts: THAT DAY, LARRY WAS FLYING TO THE NORTHERN ISLANDS. 451 00:29:43,449 --> 00:29:46,118 SO, THEY WERE NOT THAT FAR AWAY. 452 00:29:46,185 --> 00:29:49,088 AND NO WORD CAME FROM THEM, NO CELL PHONE CALLS, 453 00:29:49,155 --> 00:29:51,523 NOT DISTRESS BEACON, NOTHING. 454 00:30:26,292 --> 00:30:29,996 FIRST OF ALL, WE HAD TO PROVE THAT THE BOY WAS HILLBLOM'S CHILD. 455 00:30:30,062 --> 00:30:34,733 RIGHT? SO, THAT WAS GOAL NUMBER ONE. 456 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,402 THE OBVIOUS WAY TO SOLVE THE CASE 457 00:30:36,468 --> 00:30:39,805 IS TO GET BLOOD SAMPLES FROM HILLBLOM'S RELATIVES. 458 00:30:39,872 --> 00:30:43,009 THAT WOULD'VE HAD A GOOD CHANCE OF SOLVING THE PROBLEM, 459 00:30:43,075 --> 00:30:44,911 YOU KNOW, IN TWO DAYS. 460 00:30:44,977 --> 00:30:46,778 THEY REFUSED, 461 00:30:46,845 --> 00:30:49,448 AND THERE WAS NO WAY TO FORCE THEM TO DO IT. 462 00:30:49,515 --> 00:30:51,984 IN A CASE, WHAT YOU HAVE TO HOPE FOR 463 00:30:52,051 --> 00:30:55,487 IS THAT YOU CAN FIND SOME BIOLOGICAL MATERIAL 464 00:30:55,554 --> 00:30:57,289 THAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD SUGGEST 465 00:30:57,356 --> 00:30:59,725 ARE FROM THE PERSON YOU'RE INTERESTED IN-- 466 00:30:59,791 --> 00:31:02,494 HAIR OR BLOOD, OR MAYBE SEMEN. 467 00:31:02,561 --> 00:31:05,564 THAT KIND OF EVIDENCE CAN BE FOUND IN RESIDENCES WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. 468 00:31:05,631 --> 00:31:11,003 Newscaster: THE ATTORNEY FOR JUNIOR LARRY HILLBLOM 469 00:31:11,070 --> 00:31:15,707 THE COURT LAST WEEK ORDERED THE ESTATE EXECUTOR, JOE WAECHTER, 470 00:31:15,774 --> 00:31:19,979 NOT TO CLEAN OR DISTURB ANYTHING IN THE HOUSE. 471 00:31:24,683 --> 00:31:28,554 Lujan: WE WENT AND SEARCHED HILLBLOM'S HOUSE FOR THE DNA. 472 00:31:30,156 --> 00:31:32,791 THERE'S NOT A SINGLE THING. NOT A PICTURE, 473 00:31:32,858 --> 00:31:35,227 NOT A COMB, NOT AN UNDERWEAR-- 474 00:31:35,294 --> 00:31:37,997 NOTHING OF LARRY HILLBLOM'S. 475 00:31:39,966 --> 00:31:41,600 I WAS SURPRISED THAT EVERYTHING 476 00:31:41,667 --> 00:31:44,036 SEEMED TO BE VERY CLEAN AT THAT TIME. 477 00:31:44,103 --> 00:31:45,637 THERE WAS NO DIRTY CLOTHES IN THE CORNER. 478 00:31:45,704 --> 00:31:48,074 IT SEEMED LIKE A PLACE THAT HAD BEEN MAINTAINED 479 00:31:48,140 --> 00:31:50,409 IN A VERY NEAT AND CLEAN STATE ALL THE TIME. 480 00:31:52,778 --> 00:31:56,515 IT DIDN'T BODE WELL FOR FINDING THE KIND OF EVIDENCE WE WERE LOOKING FOR. 481 00:32:00,852 --> 00:32:04,490 WE DUG THROUGH BATHTUB DRAINS AND SINK DRAINS, 482 00:32:04,556 --> 00:32:07,793 AND TYPICALLY, HAIR GETS CAUGHT UP IN THOSE THINGS. 483 00:32:07,859 --> 00:32:11,930 IT'S THE CLEANEST PIPE HE'S EVER SEEN IN HIS LIFE. 484 00:32:11,998 --> 00:32:16,702 I REMEMBER HIM TELLING ME HE WAS LOOKING AROUND HIS BATHROOM AS HE WAS-- 485 00:32:16,768 --> 00:32:20,639 YOU KNOW, HOW CLEAN BATHROOMS ARE NORMALLY IN HOTELS, 486 00:32:20,706 --> 00:32:23,375 BECAUSE EVERY DAY, THEY CLEAN IT. 487 00:32:23,442 --> 00:32:26,645 HE SAID HILLBLOM'S PIPE WAS CLEANED. 488 00:32:26,712 --> 00:32:29,081 BUT THAT'S WHAT AN INVESTIGATION IS ALL ABOUT. 489 00:32:29,148 --> 00:32:31,283 THERE ARE MORE FALSE TRAILS IN ANY INVESTIGATION 490 00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:34,653 THAN THERE ARE FRUITFUL ONES. 491 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:40,659 UM...WHAT WE FOUND OUT LATER ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS... 492 00:32:40,726 --> 00:32:43,429 YOU KNOW, SORT OF-- IT MADE A LOT OF SENSE. 493 00:32:43,495 --> 00:32:46,265 BUT I WASN'T SUSPICIOUS, REALLY, BEFORE THAT 494 00:32:46,332 --> 00:32:50,036 THAT ANYTHING STRANGE HAD GONE ON. 495 00:32:54,273 --> 00:32:56,808 ALL MY INSTINCTS AS A CRIMINAL LAWYER-- 496 00:32:56,875 --> 00:33:01,147 YOU KNOW, THE RADARS, EVERYTHING, RED FLAGS, YOU KNOW-- 497 00:33:01,213 --> 00:33:03,582 ARE FLYING ALL OVER. 498 00:33:13,092 --> 00:33:14,726 AT THE TIME OF HILLBLOM'S DEATH, 499 00:33:14,793 --> 00:33:18,364 LARRY WAS LIVING WITH A GIRL NAMED JOSEPHINE NORCASA. 500 00:33:18,430 --> 00:33:21,567 SHE WAS LARRY'S LIVE-IN GIRLFRIEND, 501 00:33:21,633 --> 00:33:25,471 AND SHE HAD MADE A CLAIM ALSO AGAINST THE ESTATE. 502 00:33:29,408 --> 00:33:31,410 O'Connor: I WAS WITH HIM WHEN HE MET JOSEPHINE, 503 00:33:31,477 --> 00:33:35,081 AND HE WAS JUST INSTANTLY SMITTEN WITH JOSEPHINE. 504 00:33:35,147 --> 00:33:36,982 I COULDN'T SEE WHY, 505 00:33:37,049 --> 00:33:39,185 BECAUSE JOSEPHINE DIDN'T SPEAK MUCH ENGLISH, 506 00:33:39,251 --> 00:33:42,154 AND ALL SHE SAID WAS, "NO. NO. NO." 507 00:33:42,221 --> 00:33:44,423 EVERY QUESTION--"NO." ( laughs ) 508 00:33:44,490 --> 00:33:47,826 AND I THOUGHT, "JEEZ, LARRY, WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOUR TIME WITH THIS GIRL?" 509 00:33:47,893 --> 00:33:51,163 BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT HER THAT JUST STRUCK HIM, 510 00:33:51,230 --> 00:33:54,200 AND THEY WERE INSTANTLY INSEPARABLE. 511 00:33:56,135 --> 00:33:58,204 ALWAYS HELD HER IN A HIGHER LEVEL 512 00:33:58,270 --> 00:34:00,372 THAN THE OTHER GIRLS. 513 00:34:00,439 --> 00:34:03,175 I EVEN TOLD JOSEPHINE, "YOU'RE ONE OF A KIND 514 00:34:03,242 --> 00:34:05,577 THAT I THINK LARRY HAS FEELINGS FOR." 515 00:34:05,644 --> 00:34:07,646 AND SHE EVEN TOLD ME-- SHE SAID, "REALLY?" 516 00:34:07,713 --> 00:34:09,715 I SAID, "I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING 517 00:34:09,781 --> 00:34:12,351 THAT CLICKED WITH YOU AND LARRY." 518 00:34:12,418 --> 00:34:14,386 SHE WAS JEALOUS, AND SHE SUSPECTED LARRY 519 00:34:14,453 --> 00:34:17,123 OF SEEING WOMEN BEHIND HER BACK. 520 00:34:17,189 --> 00:34:19,024 SO, SHE USED A BLACK MARKER, 521 00:34:19,091 --> 00:34:21,760 AND SHE WROTE "JOSEPHINE" ON ALL OF HIS UNDERWEAR. 522 00:34:21,827 --> 00:34:25,431 SO, HE HAD UNDERWEAR THAT SAID "JOSEPHINE". ( laughs ) 523 00:34:25,497 --> 00:34:27,866 LARRY ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE OF PASSPORTS. 524 00:34:27,933 --> 00:34:31,337 SO, THE PASSPORT THAT SHE WOULD LOOK AT WHEN HE GOT BACK ON SAIPAN 525 00:34:31,403 --> 00:34:32,938 WASN'T THE PASSPORT HE WAS USING 526 00:34:33,004 --> 00:34:35,541 TO CHECK INTO DIFFERENT PORTS OF THE WORLD. 527 00:34:35,607 --> 00:34:39,044 IT'S NOT WISE ON A SMALL ISLAND TO CHEAT. 528 00:34:39,111 --> 00:34:40,779 SO, THAT WAS THE REASON 529 00:34:40,846 --> 00:34:43,782 NOT TO GO OUT TO THE BARS ON SAIPAN. 530 00:34:43,849 --> 00:34:46,652 Anderson: HE LIKED TO TRAVEL AROUND TO THE HOTSPOTS OF ASIA. 531 00:34:46,718 --> 00:34:50,289 HE ENJOYED HAVING A GOOD TIME. 532 00:34:53,192 --> 00:34:55,994 AFTER LARRY'S FIRST ACCIDENT, 533 00:34:56,061 --> 00:34:57,363 JOSEPHINE WROTE UP A WILL, 534 00:34:57,429 --> 00:35:01,800 AND SHE TRIED TO GET LARRY TO SIGN IT. 535 00:35:01,867 --> 00:35:04,803 THAT IF HE SIGNED THE WILL, THEN SHE MIGHT WANT HIM DEAD, 536 00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:08,374 AND HE WANTED HER TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT HIS WELL-BEING, 537 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,377 AND SO HE REFUSED TO SIGN THE WILL. 538 00:35:21,187 --> 00:35:24,956 AFTER LARRY DISAPPEARED, SHE WAS STILL LIVING IN THE HOUSE. 539 00:35:25,023 --> 00:35:27,426 SHE WAS VERY BROKEN UP. SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 540 00:35:27,493 --> 00:35:29,428 SHE LIVED WITH LARRY FOR TEN YEARS, 541 00:35:29,495 --> 00:35:32,164 BUT SHE REALLY HAD NO MONEY OF HER OWN. 542 00:35:33,765 --> 00:35:35,467 SHE KNEW ALL OF LARRY'S FRIENDS, 543 00:35:35,534 --> 00:35:38,204 AND JOE WAECHTER WAS A CLOSE FRIEND OF LARRY'S. 544 00:35:38,270 --> 00:35:40,206 WHAT I WAS HEARING FROM JOE WAECHTER 545 00:35:40,272 --> 00:35:42,908 IS THAT THEY WERE GONNA DO THE RIGHT THING BY JOSEPHINE, 546 00:35:42,974 --> 00:35:46,077 THAT I SHOULDN'T WORRY, THEY WERE GONNA DO THE RIGHT THING BY JOSEPHINE. 547 00:35:46,144 --> 00:35:48,480 BUT NOTHING EVER HAPPENED. 548 00:35:54,553 --> 00:35:57,356 I GOT INVOLVED REPRESENTING JOSEPHINE, 549 00:35:57,423 --> 00:36:00,025 AND I STARTED HEARING, "JOSEPHINE'S JUST A MAID. 550 00:36:00,091 --> 00:36:02,961 "SHE'S GOT A CONTRACT APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR. 551 00:36:03,028 --> 00:36:04,530 SHE'S JUST THE HOUSEKEEPER." 552 00:36:04,596 --> 00:36:07,799 Anderson: JOSEPHINE-- THAT WAS A REAL TRAGEDY. 553 00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:09,868 SHE WAS THE ONE WHO WAS SUDDENLY LEFT WITH NOTHING. 554 00:36:09,935 --> 00:36:13,905 AND I THINK PEOPLE ON SAIPAN ACTUALLY FELT SORRY FOR HER. 555 00:36:23,315 --> 00:36:25,617 IT WAS KIND OF-- "IGNORE REALITY, 556 00:36:25,684 --> 00:36:28,220 CREATE A STORY, AND THEN SELL THE STORY." 557 00:36:28,287 --> 00:36:30,889 SO, THE STORY IS, JOSEPHINE'S A MAID, 558 00:36:30,956 --> 00:36:33,459 THESE ARE PROSTITUTES WHO ARE MAKING IT UP. 559 00:36:33,525 --> 00:36:36,061 IT WASN'T REALLY LARRY THEY HAD BEEN WITH. 560 00:36:36,127 --> 00:36:39,164 Manso: YOUNG GIRLS-- MOST OF THEM FILIPINOS-- 561 00:36:39,231 --> 00:36:42,401 CLAIMING THAT LARRY WAS THE FATHER OF THEIR CHILDREN-- 562 00:36:42,468 --> 00:36:46,004 WERE POOR, UNEDUCATED, AND ROOTLESS, WITH NO CONNECTIONS. 563 00:36:46,071 --> 00:36:50,175 AND THEY SIMPLY DIDN'T HAVE MANY OPTIONS. 564 00:36:50,242 --> 00:36:52,478 THERE WAS KIND OF AN ELITIST, 565 00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:56,147 AND ALSO, TO A DEGREE, RACIST ATTITUDE. 566 00:36:56,214 --> 00:36:57,983 A POOR LADY FROM THE PHILIPPINES-- 567 00:36:58,049 --> 00:37:01,186 WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD SHE NEED $40 MILLION? 568 00:37:01,253 --> 00:37:04,923 WHY SHOULD WE GIVE SOMEBODY LIKE THIS SO MUCH OF THE MONEY? 569 00:37:04,990 --> 00:37:10,929 Calvo: THE HEIR CLAIMANTS HAD EVERYTHING TO FIGHT FOR, 570 00:37:10,996 --> 00:37:14,366 ONE OF THOSE KIDS WAS SLEEPING IN A CARDBOARD BOX. 571 00:37:18,904 --> 00:37:22,541 Dotts: IN THE PHILIPPINES, THERE IS A VERY BIG DIVIDE 572 00:37:22,608 --> 00:37:24,843 BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE MONEY 573 00:37:24,910 --> 00:37:27,946 AND PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE MONEY. 574 00:37:28,013 --> 00:37:31,082 THE POOR PEOPLE IN THE PHILIPPINES TEND TO BE VERY POOR, 575 00:37:31,149 --> 00:37:33,985 TO THE POINT WHERE THERE'S STILL STARVATION, 576 00:37:34,052 --> 00:37:38,457 THERE'S SERIOUS MALNUTRITION, CHILDREN DON'T GO TO SCHOOL. 577 00:37:39,758 --> 00:37:42,428 SO, WHAT OFTEN HAPPENS IN THE PHILIPPINES IS, 578 00:37:42,494 --> 00:37:44,563 SOME DAUGHTERS WILL WORK FOR THE BAR INDUSTRY 579 00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:47,766 TO HELP PROVIDE MONEY TO THE FAMILY. 580 00:37:47,833 --> 00:37:52,438 Jones: AS FAR AS I KNOW, WHEN THEY GET TO BE THE AGE OF PHYSICAL CONSENT-- 581 00:37:52,504 --> 00:37:54,506 I DON'T KNOW LEGALLY. 582 00:37:54,573 --> 00:37:56,908 THESE GIRLS WERE 13, 14 YEARS OLD. 583 00:37:56,975 --> 00:38:00,446 I THINK PROBABLY THE PROPER TERM IS "PUBERTY". 584 00:38:00,512 --> 00:38:03,148 THE PARENTS WOULD SELL THEM TO SOME AGENT, 585 00:38:03,214 --> 00:38:04,616 WHO WOULD BRING THEM TO A BAR 586 00:38:04,683 --> 00:38:07,853 TO WORK AND MAKE MONEY AS PROSTITUTES. 587 00:38:13,692 --> 00:38:16,395 I DON'T REMEMBER ANYBODY EVER SAYING, 588 00:38:16,462 --> 00:38:18,096 "WHAT CAN WE DO FOR THESE CHILDREN? 589 00:38:18,163 --> 00:38:20,332 HOW CAN WE DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE KIDS?" 590 00:38:20,399 --> 00:38:21,667 NO ONE EVER SAID THAT. 591 00:38:21,733 --> 00:38:24,370 PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT THESE KIDS 592 00:38:24,436 --> 00:38:27,005 DIDN'T DESERVE ANY OF THE MONEY. 593 00:38:29,608 --> 00:38:32,478 WE HAD PEOPLE TELL US THAT, YOU KNOW, 594 00:38:32,544 --> 00:38:34,580 "WHY SHOULD A FILIPINO KID BE RICH 595 00:38:34,646 --> 00:38:36,948 "BECAUSE OF LARRY HILLBLOM, 596 00:38:37,015 --> 00:38:40,652 WHEN WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY ON THE NOBLE CAUSE OF MEDICAL RESEARCH?" 597 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,654 Lujan: "WOULDN'T THIS MONEY BE BETTER SERVED 598 00:38:42,721 --> 00:38:45,624 "BY BEING SPENT IN THE UNITED STATES? 599 00:38:45,691 --> 00:38:48,026 WHY SHOULD THEY GET ALL OF THIS MONEY?" 600 00:38:48,093 --> 00:38:51,497 MY ANSWER WAS SIMPLY, "BECAUSE THEY'RE HILLBLOM'S KIDS." 601 00:38:51,563 --> 00:38:54,633 AS SIMPLE AS THAT. THE LAW ALLOWS IT. 602 00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:57,035 ( children chattering ) 603 00:39:00,506 --> 00:39:03,842 Israel: AND I DON'T THINK THAT THEY REALLY LOOKED UPON THESE KIDS 604 00:39:03,909 --> 00:39:06,512 AS REAL PEOPLE. 605 00:39:16,221 --> 00:39:20,025 IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD, PEOPLE TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMILIES. 606 00:39:20,091 --> 00:39:22,060 IF THEY CAN'T TAKE CARE OF A KID, 607 00:39:22,127 --> 00:39:25,797 THEY'LL ASK ANOTHER RELATIVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE CHILD. 608 00:39:30,201 --> 00:39:33,805 AFTER THE RUMORS STARTED SURFACING ABOUT JUNIOR HILLBROOM, 609 00:39:33,872 --> 00:39:37,976 PETER DONNICI ADVISED LARRY ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS-- 610 00:39:38,043 --> 00:39:40,979 "YOU'VE GOT TO REVISE YOUR WILL." 611 00:39:41,046 --> 00:39:43,281 AND HE REFUSED. 612 00:39:43,348 --> 00:39:44,950 Dotts: THERE WAS SOME SPECULATION 613 00:39:45,016 --> 00:39:47,085 THAT LARRY KNEW THAT HE HAD KIDS, 614 00:39:47,152 --> 00:39:50,589 AND HE MEANT NOT TO HAVE HIS KIDS DISINHERITED. 615 00:39:52,858 --> 00:39:56,327 LARRY HIMSELF, IN HIS ROLE AS SPECIAL JUDGE 616 00:39:56,394 --> 00:39:58,029 IN THE SAIPAN HIGH COURT, 617 00:39:58,096 --> 00:40:00,432 PARTICIPATED IN WRITING AN OPINION 618 00:40:00,499 --> 00:40:02,434 WHICH FIRMLY ESTABLISHED AS LAW 619 00:40:02,501 --> 00:40:06,605 THE INHERITANCE RIGHTS OF CHILDREN BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK. 620 00:40:16,715 --> 00:40:19,217 I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST AS IF HE WERE WRITING LAW 621 00:40:19,284 --> 00:40:22,253 THAT ADDRESSED HIS PARTICULAR SITUATION. 622 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,391 Lujan: I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT HE DIDN'T WANT TO DISINHERIT HIS KIDS, 623 00:40:26,458 --> 00:40:28,594 AT LEAST NOT THEN AND THERE. 624 00:40:30,462 --> 00:40:32,531 THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE, 625 00:40:32,598 --> 00:40:46,144 THEY SAID THEY HAD TO FIND ANOTHER WAY 626 00:40:46,211 --> 00:40:50,649 I'LL TELL YOU WHY I REALLY WENT AFTER THEM, OKAY? 627 00:40:50,716 --> 00:40:52,984 'CAUSE THEY TREATED ME LIKE SHIT. 628 00:40:54,886 --> 00:40:57,623 WE HAD A MEETING IN SAN FRANCISCO, 629 00:40:57,689 --> 00:41:00,091 AND WE WERE AT PETER DONNICI'S OFFICE. 630 00:41:00,158 --> 00:41:03,161 WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT, ON THE FOLLOWING WEEK, 631 00:41:03,228 --> 00:41:06,665 THEY'LL GIVE US AN OFFER IN WRITING. 632 00:41:06,732 --> 00:41:11,837 AND I REMEMBER GOING UP TO SAIPAN ON MONDAY. 633 00:41:11,903 --> 00:41:14,540 AND AFTER THE HEARING, 634 00:41:14,606 --> 00:41:16,742 I ASKED, "DO YOU THINK I SHOULD FLY HOME 635 00:41:16,808 --> 00:41:19,244 OR JUST STAY HERE AND WAIT FOR THE OFFER?" 636 00:41:19,310 --> 00:41:22,714 HE SAYS, "DAVE, WHY DON'T YOU HANG AROUND? THE OFFER'S COMING." 637 00:41:24,716 --> 00:41:27,418 TUESDAY, CALLED HIM UP. 638 00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:29,087 "THE OFFER HERE?" "NO." 639 00:41:29,154 --> 00:41:31,523 SO, WEDNESDAY--NO OFFER. THURSDAY-- 640 00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:33,759 I SAID, "I'D BETTER GO HOME, 641 00:41:33,825 --> 00:41:35,827 AND I CAN COME BACK WHEN YOU HAVE IT." 642 00:41:35,894 --> 00:41:38,363 HE SAID, "NO, DAVE, WHY DON'T YOU HANG AROUND?" 643 00:41:38,429 --> 00:41:41,667 "OKAY." "JOE WAECHTER'S COMING IN THIS EVENING." 644 00:41:43,168 --> 00:41:46,672 SO, FRIDAY MORNING, I GO OUT THERE AT ABOUT 10:00. 645 00:41:48,373 --> 00:41:51,677 HE SENT HIS ASSOCIATE PARTNER, ONE OF THEM, 646 00:41:51,743 --> 00:41:56,882 WHO CAME OUT AND SAID, "OH, WE DECIDED THERE'S NO OFFER." 647 00:41:56,948 --> 00:41:59,951 SO, I SAID, "OKAY." 648 00:42:00,018 --> 00:42:02,988 AND I'LL TELL YOU THIS-- I SWEAR TO GOD-- 649 00:42:03,054 --> 00:42:06,191 THAT'S WHAT THIS IS-- PERSONALLY, FOR ME, 650 00:42:06,257 --> 00:42:09,595 THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS ALL ABOUT. 651 00:42:09,661 --> 00:42:11,830 JUST FOR THAT. 652 00:42:11,897 --> 00:42:14,132 THAT'S WHEN I WENT AFTER THEM. 653 00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:16,702 AND I SAID, "I'LL TEACH THEM A LESSON." 654 00:42:18,203 --> 00:42:20,706 THEY SHOULD'VE GIVEN ME THE OFFER. 655 00:42:20,772 --> 00:42:23,041 I WOULD'VE BEEN LAZY. 656 00:42:23,108 --> 00:42:26,111 ( chuckles ) 657 00:42:43,629 --> 00:42:48,333 Newscaster: THE ATTORNEY FOR WOULD-BE HEIR, JUNIOR LARRY HILLBROOM, 658 00:42:48,399 --> 00:42:51,269 QUESTIONS THE MOTIVES OF EXECUTOR JOE WAECHTER, 659 00:42:51,336 --> 00:42:53,839 HILLBLOM TRUST CHAIRMAN PETER DONNICI, 660 00:42:53,905 --> 00:42:55,540 AND HE STARTED PICKING APART 661 00:42:55,607 --> 00:42:59,310 THE WAY JOE WAECHTER GOT CONTROL OF THE ESTATE. 662 00:42:59,377 --> 00:43:02,681 I ASKED THE JUDGE FOR THEM TO PRODUCE CERTAIN THINGS. 663 00:43:02,748 --> 00:43:06,284 SO, THEY STOOD UP AND SAID, "OH, YOUR HONOR, NO PROBLEM. 664 00:43:06,351 --> 00:43:08,186 WE'LL GIVE IT TO HIM TOMORROW." 665 00:43:10,956 --> 00:43:14,292 THERE WAS A STACK THIS HIGH OF DOCUMENTS, YOU KNOW? 666 00:43:14,359 --> 00:43:18,363 ALL THESE LOAN AGREEMENTS AND MORTGAGES AND EVERYTHING. 667 00:43:18,429 --> 00:43:21,867 SO, THEY SAID, "HERE IT IS, DAVE. 668 00:43:21,933 --> 00:43:23,969 "YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT." 669 00:43:27,305 --> 00:43:29,808 "SO, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?" 670 00:43:29,875 --> 00:43:31,943 I SAID, "I'LL TELL YOU WHAT-- 671 00:43:32,010 --> 00:43:33,645 "WHY DON'T YOU JUST LEAVE IT, 672 00:43:33,712 --> 00:43:35,546 AND WE'LL MEET BACK HERE AT 4:00." 673 00:43:35,613 --> 00:43:37,182 HE SAYS, "OH, YOU'RE GONNA GO?" 674 00:43:37,248 --> 00:43:39,184 I SAID, "NO, I'M GONNA STAY HERE AND READ IT." 675 00:43:39,250 --> 00:43:41,186 AND I REMEMBER-- BECAUSE I WITH JOE HILL, 676 00:43:41,252 --> 00:43:42,988 AND JOE HILL TOLD ME AFTERWARDS, 677 00:43:43,054 --> 00:43:45,190 "YOU SHOULD'VE SEEN THEIR FACE." 678 00:43:45,256 --> 00:43:47,358 BECAUSE JOE BELIEVED THEY NEVER EXPECTED 679 00:43:47,425 --> 00:43:51,096 THAT I WOULD SIT DOWN AND READ EVERYTHING, WHICH I DID. 680 00:44:05,410 --> 00:44:07,512 I READ EVERYTHING THAT I COULD, YOU KNOW? 681 00:44:07,578 --> 00:44:10,181 AND THE NEXT DAY, I WENT TO COURT AND TOLD THE JUDGE, 682 00:44:10,248 --> 00:44:13,184 "GUESS WHAT, JUDGE? THEY'RE STEALING. 683 00:44:13,251 --> 00:44:15,887 THEY'RE ENGAGING IN ALL KINDS OF CONFLICTS." 684 00:44:33,371 --> 00:44:35,807 Manso: RIGHT AFTER LARRY'S DISAPPEARANCE, 685 00:44:35,874 --> 00:44:38,977 DONNICI AND WAECHTER SWOOP IN 686 00:44:39,044 --> 00:44:41,112 AND TAKE OVER THE BANK OF SAIPAN, 687 00:44:41,179 --> 00:44:44,015 WHICH LARRY HAD ASSIGNED TO OVERSEE HIS ESTATE. 688 00:44:44,082 --> 00:44:45,650 IT'S THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY THING. 689 00:44:45,717 --> 00:44:51,322 IT HAPPENED WITH SUCH ALACRITY 690 00:44:51,389 --> 00:44:54,960 THEY BORROWED MONEY FROM THE ESTATE 691 00:44:55,026 --> 00:44:57,162 TO PAY FOR THE STOCK IN THE BANK, 692 00:44:57,228 --> 00:44:59,597 AND THAT IS WRONG ON SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS. 693 00:44:59,664 --> 00:45:01,032 BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY DID. 694 00:45:01,099 --> 00:45:02,834 SO, I COME TO YOU, AND I SAY, 695 00:45:02,901 --> 00:45:05,436 "LET ME BUY 40% OF YOU, 696 00:45:05,503 --> 00:45:07,906 BUT LEND ME THE MONEY TO BUY IT FROM YOU." 697 00:45:07,973 --> 00:45:10,008 OKAY? BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. 698 00:45:10,075 --> 00:45:11,910 THE PLAN CLEARLY WAS TO TAKE OVER THE BANK, 699 00:45:11,977 --> 00:45:14,780 WHICH WOULD THEN ALLOW THEM TO TAKE OVER THE ASSETS. 700 00:45:14,846 --> 00:45:18,416 Newscaster: THE JUDGE'S ORDER TO KICK JOE WAECHTER OFF THE HILLBLOM CASE-- 701 00:45:18,483 --> 00:45:21,787 WAECHTER WAS MANAGING THE AFFAIRS OF THE HILLBLOM ESTATE 702 00:45:21,853 --> 00:45:24,155 UNTIL THE BANK WAS SUSPENDED. 703 00:45:30,561 --> 00:45:34,099 WITHOUT LUJAN, THEY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT. 704 00:45:43,708 --> 00:45:45,343 WE THOUGHT WE WERE BEING RETAINED 705 00:45:45,410 --> 00:45:47,846 TO PROVE THAT JUNIOR WAS LARRY'S SON. 706 00:45:47,913 --> 00:45:49,547 BUT WHEN WE SAW WHAT WAS GOING ON, 707 00:45:49,614 --> 00:45:53,885 WE REALIZED THAT WE HAD TO FUNCTION AS THE EXECUTOR 708 00:45:53,952 --> 00:45:55,787 AND SAVE THE ASSETS. 709 00:45:55,854 --> 00:46:00,859 THE WAY HILLBLOM DID BUSINESS WAS VERY CONVOLUTED. 710 00:46:00,926 --> 00:46:03,328 IN VIETNAM, HE PUT ALL THAT MONEY IN, 711 00:46:03,394 --> 00:46:05,430 AND HIS NAME WASN'T ON ANY DOCUMENTS. 712 00:46:05,496 --> 00:46:07,799 HE PUT IN ABOUT 102 MILLION INTO VIETNAM. 713 00:46:07,866 --> 00:46:10,836 I'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL THE CORPORATE RECORDS OF THE COMPANY IN VIETNAM. 714 00:46:10,902 --> 00:46:14,940 I'VE BEEN THROUGH THE MINUTES OF EVERY MEETING, GOING BACK TO 1992. 715 00:46:15,006 --> 00:46:17,075 WE KNOW HE WAS THERE. 716 00:46:19,410 --> 00:46:22,814 BUT HIS NAME DOESN'T APPEAR IN ANY DOCUMENT. 717 00:46:22,881 --> 00:46:25,483 HE HAD TO DO IT THAT WAY BECAUSE HE WAS THERE PRE-EMBARGO. 718 00:46:25,550 --> 00:46:29,220 AMERICANS WEREN'T ALLOWED TO INVEST MONEY IN VIETNAM. 719 00:46:29,287 --> 00:46:31,489 THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SENT HIM A LETTER, 720 00:46:31,556 --> 00:46:34,826 ASKING TO KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING IN VIETNAM, 721 00:46:34,893 --> 00:46:36,561 AND HE WROTE "FUCK YOU" ON THE LETTER 722 00:46:36,627 --> 00:46:39,230 AND SENT IT BACK TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. 723 00:47:10,929 --> 00:47:14,299 JUST A WEEK AGO, I FOUND OUT THERE'S ANOTHER $40,000 724 00:47:14,365 --> 00:47:16,134 THAT BELONGS TO THE ESTATE IN HONG KONG. 725 00:47:16,201 --> 00:47:17,768 IT JUST KEEPS COMING UP. 726 00:47:17,835 --> 00:47:20,906 WHEN HE DIED, I FOUND OUT THAT HE HAD LEFT 727 00:47:20,972 --> 00:47:26,544 A $3 MILLION APARTMENT COMPLEX ON SAIPAN IN MY NAME. 728 00:47:26,611 --> 00:47:29,881 SO, I COULD'VE SAID, "I'M KEEPING IT. IT'S IN MY NAME." 729 00:47:29,948 --> 00:47:32,017 BUT I DIDN'T. I GAVE IT BACK TO THEM. 730 00:47:32,083 --> 00:47:36,387 THE ONE IMPORTANT INGREDIENT, IN PART, 731 00:47:36,454 --> 00:47:39,157 TO KEEPING HIS ESTATE TOGETHER, UH, WAS LARRY. 732 00:47:39,224 --> 00:47:41,526 NO ONE ELSE COULD'VE DONE IT. 733 00:47:41,592 --> 00:47:45,496 THERE WAS NO RHYME OR REASON TO THE EMPIRE THAT HE BUILT. 734 00:47:47,798 --> 00:47:50,235 HILLBLOM AND HIS FRIENDS WAS LIKE AN OCTOPUS, 735 00:47:50,301 --> 00:47:53,038 AND LARRY WAS THE HEAD. 736 00:47:53,104 --> 00:47:55,140 AND ALL THESE GUYS THAT WORKED FOR HIM 737 00:47:55,206 --> 00:47:57,208 WERE NOTHING BUT TENTACLES. 738 00:47:57,275 --> 00:47:59,244 AND WHEN LARRY DIED, YOU KNOW, 739 00:47:59,310 --> 00:48:18,329 IT WAS LIKE THE HEAD HAD BEEN CUT OFF, 740 00:48:18,396 --> 00:48:20,798 O'Connor: HE WAS CAREFUL WITH HIS FRIENDS. 741 00:48:20,865 --> 00:48:23,134 SO, MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE FRIENDS WITH LARRY 742 00:48:23,201 --> 00:48:25,070 WERE FRIENDS INSIDE OF A BOX. 743 00:48:25,136 --> 00:48:28,506 THEY WERE HIS FRIEND WITH REGARD TO A FEDERAL TAKEOVER ISSUE. 744 00:48:28,573 --> 00:48:31,209 THEY WERE HIS FRIEND WITH REGARD TO TAXATION. 745 00:48:31,276 --> 00:48:34,812 THEY WERE HIS FRIEND WITH REGARD TO CHASING GIRLS. 746 00:48:34,879 --> 00:48:37,815 HE DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON HIM. 747 00:48:37,882 --> 00:48:41,319 HE RECOGNIZED PEOPLE THOUGHT HE WAS CRAZY AND UNPREDICTABLE, 748 00:48:41,386 --> 00:48:43,621 THAT THAT GAVE HIM AN ADVANTAGE. 749 00:48:43,688 --> 00:48:46,557 HE TRULY ENJOYED HIS PRIVACY. HE HAD PEOPLE WORK FOR HIM 750 00:48:46,624 --> 00:48:48,693 THAT WERE ON THE COVER OF FORBES, 751 00:48:48,759 --> 00:48:50,095 BUT IT WAS NEVER HIM. 752 00:48:50,161 --> 00:48:52,030 HE LIKED HIS ANONYMITY. 753 00:49:01,272 --> 00:49:03,374 I THINK HE WAS COUNTING ON THE FACT 754 00:49:03,441 --> 00:49:06,011 THAT NOBODY REALLY KNEW WHO HE WAS. 755 00:49:13,884 --> 00:49:16,021 ( water splashes ) 756 00:49:29,567 --> 00:49:32,737 AFTER WAECHTER IS TOSSED OFF THE ESTATE, 757 00:49:32,803 --> 00:49:36,041 AFTER THE PLOY THAT HE ATTEMPTED TO PULL OFF WITH THE BANK-- 758 00:49:36,107 --> 00:49:37,942 THE TAKEOVER OF THE BANK-- 759 00:49:38,009 --> 00:49:42,280 SOMEHOW, THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL FROM CALIFORNIA 760 00:49:42,347 --> 00:49:44,582 GETS PULLED INTO THE CASE 761 00:49:44,649 --> 00:49:47,085 TO REINFORCE DONNICI AND WAECHTER. 762 00:49:47,152 --> 00:49:50,288 GOD KNOWS WHAT THE BACK CHANNELS MIGHT HAVE BEEN. 763 00:49:50,355 --> 00:49:55,160 THERE WAS SO MUCH MONEY IN LARRY'S ESTATE, 764 00:49:55,226 --> 00:49:58,329 AND THERE WERE, UM-- 765 00:49:58,396 --> 00:50:03,101 THE LIFESTYLES OF THE PEOPLE THAT MADE CLAIMS 766 00:50:03,168 --> 00:50:06,171 WERE SUCH THAT, UH... 767 00:50:06,237 --> 00:50:11,076 ANYTHING THAT THEY COULD SHAKE OUT OF AN ESTATE AS LARGE AS THIS 768 00:50:11,142 --> 00:50:12,910 WOULD BE A GREAT BOON TO THEM. 769 00:50:12,977 --> 00:50:16,414 THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL OF OPPORTUNISM THERE. 770 00:50:16,481 --> 00:50:19,250 WHY WOULD THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF CALIFORNIA 771 00:50:19,317 --> 00:50:21,452 GET INVOLVED WITH THIS THING? 772 00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:23,554 WELL, THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA 773 00:50:23,621 --> 00:50:26,057 HAD BEEN DESIGNATED IN LARRY'S WILL 774 00:50:26,124 --> 00:50:28,359 AS THE BENEFICIARY OF LARRY'S ESTATE. 775 00:50:28,426 --> 00:50:32,130 THERE'S A BILLION DOLLARS RIDING ON THIS THING. 776 00:50:32,197 --> 00:50:35,800 WHEN PETER DONNICI REACHED OUT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF CALIFORNIA, 777 00:50:35,866 --> 00:50:38,736 WE THOUGHT THAT WE COULD JUST GO IN AND EDUCATE THEM THAT-- 778 00:50:38,803 --> 00:50:40,771 "LOOK, IF THERE'S ALL THIS WRONGDOING GOING ON, 779 00:50:40,838 --> 00:50:42,673 "YOU GUYS ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE HERE. 780 00:50:42,740 --> 00:50:44,575 "WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE ASSETS, 781 00:50:44,642 --> 00:50:46,377 AND YOU OUGHT TO BE IN THERE HELPING US." 782 00:50:46,444 --> 00:50:48,946 WELL, THAT WAS COMPLETELY NAIVE, 783 00:50:49,013 --> 00:50:53,484 BECAUSE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA'S FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THE ESTATE. 784 00:50:55,420 --> 00:50:57,188 THE REACTION WAS, "WHAT'S NEXT?" 785 00:51:03,261 --> 00:51:06,331 Manso: THEN IT BECAME A FRENZIED FIGHT TO HANG ON TO SOMETHING. 786 00:51:06,397 --> 00:51:08,899 THE LAWYERS THEN DESCENDED. 787 00:51:08,966 --> 00:51:11,969 PETER DONNICI WENT AND HIRED A BIG-TIME LAW FIRM 788 00:51:12,036 --> 00:51:14,105 TO REPRESENT THE HILLBLOM TRUST. 789 00:51:14,172 --> 00:51:15,973 AND THEN THE ASSETS THEMSELVES-- 790 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,475 THEY HIRED THEIR OWN LAWYERS-- 791 00:51:17,542 --> 00:51:21,212 LAW FIRMS FROM CALIFORNIA, L.A., NEW YORK. 792 00:51:23,348 --> 00:51:26,083 Dotts: IT TURNED INTO A REAL CIRCUS, 793 00:51:26,151 --> 00:51:27,985 WITH DOZENS OF ATTORNEYS 794 00:51:28,052 --> 00:51:31,222 AND HEARINGS SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK. 795 00:51:31,289 --> 00:51:35,160 Israel: IT OVERWHELMED OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM. 796 00:51:35,226 --> 00:51:37,928 THIS WAS THE BIGGEST THING THAT'S EVER HAPPENED IN SAIPAN, FOR SURE. 797 00:51:37,995 --> 00:51:42,233 SOME OF THESE LAW FIRMS WERE BILLING THE ESTATE 1 MILLION A MONTH. 798 00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:45,002 1 MILLION A MONTH. 799 00:51:45,069 --> 00:51:48,339 IMAGINE THAT. ( chuckles ) 800 00:51:52,109 --> 00:51:56,214 THEY CAME TO THIS TINY ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACIFIC 801 00:51:56,281 --> 00:51:58,783 INVOLVING LAWYERS THAT WERE NOT OF THEIR ILK. 802 00:51:58,849 --> 00:52:03,354 WE HAD A VERY, VERY COLORFUL OPPOSING COUNSEL, 803 00:52:03,421 --> 00:52:05,323 BY THE NAME OF MR. LUJAN. 804 00:52:05,390 --> 00:52:07,158 I REMEMBER HIS FIRST APPEARANCE. 805 00:52:07,225 --> 00:52:10,528 I WAS WATCHING HIM-- "THIS MAN REMINDS ME OF A SNAKE." 806 00:52:10,595 --> 00:52:13,331 AND WE KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH SNAKES IN GUAM. 807 00:52:13,398 --> 00:52:15,966 WE CUT THEIR HEAD OFF WITH MACHETES. 808 00:52:16,033 --> 00:52:20,571 HE AND I BUTTED HEADS AT EVERY TURN. 809 00:52:20,638 --> 00:52:25,510 A CRIMINAL LAWYER LEARNS TO UTILIZE THEATRICS. 810 00:52:31,416 --> 00:52:33,518 THAT'S WHY I CALL HIM THE ROOSTER. 811 00:52:37,588 --> 00:52:39,457 THE FIRST MEETING WITH MR. LUJAN 812 00:52:39,524 --> 00:52:43,194 WAS IN SOME VERY PROVOCATIVE COURT APPEARANCE, 813 00:52:43,261 --> 00:52:46,030 WHERE HE FILED A CHALLENGE 814 00:52:46,096 --> 00:52:48,466 SUGGESTING THAT THE JUDGE HIMSELF MIGHT HAVE ILLEGITIMATE CHILDREN 815 00:52:48,533 --> 00:52:50,601 AND SHOULDN'T SIT IN THE CASE. 816 00:52:50,668 --> 00:52:53,471 AND I AT LEAST HAD NEVER ACCUSED A JUDGE, 817 00:52:53,538 --> 00:52:55,273 WITHOUT SUPPORTING EVIDENCE, 818 00:52:55,340 --> 00:52:57,041 OF HAVING ILLEGITIMATE CHILDREN, 819 00:52:57,107 --> 00:53:00,511 AND I REALIZED I WAS NOW IN A DIFFERENT JURISDICTION. 820 00:53:05,950 --> 00:53:09,954 ONE OF THE TRUST LAWYERS ONE DAY, YOU KNOW, 821 00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:12,590 WAS WANDERING AROUND THE COURTROOM, 822 00:53:12,657 --> 00:53:16,461 AND HE WAS KIND OF A CORPULENT GUY, 823 00:53:16,527 --> 00:53:19,897 AND HE HAD HIS STOMACH IN BETWEEN DAVID LUJAN 824 00:53:19,964 --> 00:53:23,334 AND DAVID'S LINE OF VISION IN CROSS-EXAMINING A WITNESS. 825 00:53:23,401 --> 00:53:27,538 SO, DAVID STOOD UP AND, IN HIS VERY COURTLY COURTROOM TONE, SAID... 826 00:53:27,605 --> 00:53:30,107 "YOUR HONOR, HE'S DOING IT AGAIN. 827 00:53:30,174 --> 00:53:32,009 "HIS BIG STOMACH IS BLOCKING ME. 828 00:53:32,076 --> 00:53:35,446 CAN YOU TELL HIM TO REMOVE THAT BIG STOMACH?" 829 00:53:39,917 --> 00:53:42,753 THINGS AREN'T ALWAYS WHAT THEY APPEAR TO BE. 830 00:53:45,222 --> 00:53:47,925 WE GOT SOME BACKGROUND MATERIALS ABOUT LARRY HILLBLOM 831 00:53:47,992 --> 00:53:49,560 AS WE DUG DEEPER AND DEEPER, 832 00:53:49,627 --> 00:53:51,729 AND IT BECAME VERY FASCINATING. 833 00:53:51,796 --> 00:53:54,632 AND... 834 00:53:54,699 --> 00:53:57,668 WE HAD AN INTERESTING TIME WITH IT, 835 00:53:57,735 --> 00:54:03,908 GIVEN THE FACTS SURROUNDING LARRY'S LIFE. 836 00:54:03,974 --> 00:54:06,911 LARRY WAS A COLORFUL AND INTERESTING CHARACTER. 837 00:54:06,977 --> 00:54:13,518 HE FOUND ADVENTURE IN PLACES WHERE FEW OF US LOOK FOR IT. 838 00:54:23,561 --> 00:54:25,930 Kennedy: A LOCAL COUNSEL IN THE PHILIPPINES 839 00:54:25,996 --> 00:54:30,100 GAVE ME A TOUR OF LARRY HILLBLOM'S MANILA. 840 00:54:30,167 --> 00:54:32,603 THE CLUBS WERE UNBELIEVABLE. 841 00:54:32,670 --> 00:54:36,307 300 OR 400 OR 500 WOMEN IN THEM 842 00:54:36,374 --> 00:54:40,578 WHO WERE CLASSIFIED EITHER AS "DANCERS", "NUDE DANCERS", 843 00:54:40,645 --> 00:54:43,781 OR "GUEST RELATIONS OFFICERS"-- G.R.O.'s-- 844 00:54:43,848 --> 00:54:48,653 WHICH I THOUGHT WAS THE MOST FORMALISTIC TITLE I'D EVER HEARD FOR A HOOKER. 845 00:54:54,124 --> 00:54:56,427 Apallas: WHEN I INTERVIEWED ONE OF THE LADIES 846 00:54:56,494 --> 00:54:58,463 IN CHARGE OF A BAR THAT HE FREQUENTED, 847 00:54:58,529 --> 00:55:00,465 SHE TOLD ME, WHEN LARRY WOULD COME IN, 848 00:55:00,531 --> 00:55:03,868 SHE WOULD ARRANGE YOUNG GIRLS, TEN ACROSS. 849 00:55:03,934 --> 00:55:07,004 LARRY WOULD LOOK AT THE YOUNG LADIES AND... 850 00:55:07,071 --> 00:55:10,174 EITHER CHOOSE ONE OR DECLINE THE ENTIRE LINE, 851 00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:12,477 AND THEN THEY WOULD STEP TO THE BACK, 852 00:55:12,543 --> 00:55:15,145 AND A NEW LINE WOULD COME UP. 853 00:55:15,212 --> 00:55:18,148 HE WAS ALWAYS INTERESTED IN YOUNG LADIES 854 00:55:18,215 --> 00:55:20,217 THAT WERE FROM THE FARM, 855 00:55:20,284 --> 00:55:25,289 PEOPLE FROM THE BACK PARTS OF THE PHILIPPINES OR PALAU-- 856 00:55:25,356 --> 00:55:27,224 VIRGINS. 857 00:55:27,291 --> 00:55:30,294 AND I ASKED THE MAMA-SAN, "HOW COULD HE POSSIBLY KNOW THAT?" 858 00:55:30,361 --> 00:55:35,666 SHE SAID, "WELL, HE WOULD TAKE THEM TO THE HOTEL 859 00:55:35,733 --> 00:55:38,268 AND SHOW THEM TO THE SHOWER." 860 00:55:38,335 --> 00:55:40,638 ( elevator dings ) 861 00:55:40,705 --> 00:55:43,140 IF, IN FACT, THEY KNEW HOW TO OPERATE A SHOWER, 862 00:55:43,207 --> 00:55:46,777 HE KNEW THAT THEY OBVIOUSLY WERE IN THE FACILITY-- 863 00:55:46,844 --> 00:55:49,747 OR A FACILITY SIMILAR TO THAT--BEFORE. 864 00:55:49,814 --> 00:55:53,818 SO, THEREFORE, HE WOULD ELIMINATE THEM. 865 00:55:55,352 --> 00:55:58,389 Choper: HE TOLD ME ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIPS WITH WOMEN, 866 00:55:58,456 --> 00:56:04,995 AND HE EXPLAINED THAT HE WOULD ONLY HAVE SEX WITH VIRGINS 867 00:56:05,062 --> 00:56:07,598 BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT TO GET AIDS. 868 00:56:07,665 --> 00:56:11,802 SO, HE WENT INTO A LONG EXPLANATION 869 00:56:11,869 --> 00:56:15,072 OF THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT THIS HAD COST HIM. 870 00:56:15,139 --> 00:56:19,510 I FORGET THE DETAILS, BUT I KNOW HE SAID "MILLIONS". 871 00:56:48,172 --> 00:56:50,641 IN ONE OF THE DEPOSITIONS, I UNDERSTAND, 872 00:56:50,708 --> 00:56:52,342 ONE OF THE YOUNG LADIES TESTIFIED 873 00:56:52,409 --> 00:56:57,548 ABOUT HOW LARRY WOULD TAKE A SPOONFUL OF IODINE 874 00:56:57,615 --> 00:57:00,485 OR SOME OTHER... 875 00:57:00,551 --> 00:57:02,653 UM, CHEMICAL... 876 00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:07,492 AND WOULD POUR IT DOWN HIS... 877 00:57:07,558 --> 00:57:09,159 PENIS... 878 00:57:09,226 --> 00:57:12,463 IN ORDER TO KILL ANY GERMS THAT HE MIGHT-- 879 00:57:12,530 --> 00:57:15,833 HE NEVER-- HE NEVER, I AM TOLD, 880 00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:18,268 ENJOYED SEX WITH A PROPHYLACTIC, 881 00:57:18,335 --> 00:57:21,539 AND THEREFORE HE HAD TO TAKE CERTAIN PRECAUTIONS 882 00:57:21,606 --> 00:57:24,709 TO PREVENT FROM GETTING A DISEASE. 883 00:57:24,775 --> 00:57:27,612 IT WAS THE PHILIPPINES THAT REALLY BOTHERED ME 884 00:57:27,678 --> 00:57:29,714 WITH UP-FRONT EXPOSURE 885 00:57:29,780 --> 00:57:33,484 TO WHAT POVERTY REQUIRES PEOPLE TO DO 886 00:57:33,551 --> 00:57:37,287 AND THE JUST PLAIN SINFULNESS 887 00:57:37,354 --> 00:57:40,825 OF WESTERNERS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT. 888 00:57:40,891 --> 00:57:44,328 IT'S APPALLING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE 889 00:57:44,394 --> 00:57:48,733 WHO ARE LIVING BY SOMETHING OTHER THAN A 20th CENTURY AMERICAN MORALITY. 890 00:57:56,507 --> 00:58:00,410 IT ALL WAS KIND OF SHOCKING. 891 00:58:00,477 --> 00:58:02,780 UH... ( laughs ) 892 00:58:02,847 --> 00:58:07,985 I HAVE A LOT OF NEWSPAPERS, 893 00:58:08,052 --> 00:58:10,755 DO YOU? NO. 894 00:58:10,821 --> 00:58:13,624 EVERYBODY MAKES A MISTAKE. 895 00:58:15,392 --> 00:58:20,364 YOU WOULD HEAR THINGS, 896 00:58:20,430 --> 00:58:23,734 AND NONE OF IT WAS GOOD. 897 00:58:25,135 --> 00:58:27,672 I WAS A LITTLE PUZZLED, UH... 898 00:58:27,738 --> 00:58:31,341 THAT HE HAD THAT NEED. 899 00:58:31,408 --> 00:58:34,779 UH, HE HAD A GIRLFRIEND-- JOSEPHINE-- 900 00:58:34,845 --> 00:58:37,615 AND SHE WAS VERY ATTRACTIVE. 901 00:58:37,682 --> 00:58:41,351 I JUST COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE'D BE OFF SOMEWHERE ELSE 902 00:58:41,418 --> 00:58:43,554 WHEN SHE WAS THERE AT HOME. 903 00:58:43,621 --> 00:58:45,923 AND, UH... 904 00:58:48,826 --> 00:58:51,295 Dotts: HE DIDN'T COVER UP HIS LIFESTYLE. 905 00:58:51,361 --> 00:58:54,098 I REMEMBER HIM TALKING TO AN EXECUTIVE WITH CONTINENTAL AIRLINES 906 00:58:54,164 --> 00:58:57,101 ABOUT HOW MANY GIRLFRIENDS HE HAD, 907 00:58:57,167 --> 00:58:59,704 AND THE GUY SHOULD CONSIDER DOING THE SAME THING-- 908 00:58:59,770 --> 00:59:02,072 "COME ON TO THE PHILIPPINES. I'LL INTRODUCE YOU. 909 00:59:02,139 --> 00:59:04,642 WE CAN FIND YOU A GIRLFRIEND, NO PROBLEM." 910 00:59:04,709 --> 00:59:07,177 AND THE GUY WAS JUST SO UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE CONVERSATION, 911 00:59:07,244 --> 00:59:11,115 AND LARRY KEPT GOING JUST, I THINK, TO GOAD THE GUY. 912 00:59:11,181 --> 00:59:14,451 THOSE OF US WHO ARE EDUCATED AND, YOU KNOW, COMFORTABLE IN THIS COUNTRY 913 00:59:14,518 --> 00:59:18,122 AFFECT GREAT SHOCK THAT AMERICAN BUSINESS IN THE PHILIPPINES 914 00:59:18,188 --> 00:59:20,390 ARE BEING SERVICED IN PRECISELY THE SAME WAY, 915 00:59:20,457 --> 00:59:22,392 WITH THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF LOCAL OFFICIALS, 916 00:59:22,459 --> 00:59:24,461 BUSINESSPEOPLE, AND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS. 917 00:59:24,528 --> 00:59:26,396 IT IS NOT AN UNUSUAL THING. 918 00:59:26,463 --> 00:59:29,900 THE SYSTEM IS THERE-- WAS THERE BEFORE HE CAME ALONG, 919 00:59:29,967 --> 00:59:32,002 IS THERE AFTER HE'S GONE. 920 00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:33,904 AND THERE'S STILL THOUSANDS OF GIRLS 921 00:59:33,971 --> 00:59:36,406 WORKING IN DINGY LITTLE BROTHELS, 922 00:59:36,473 --> 00:59:39,877 TRYING TO WORK OFF MONEY THAT WAS GIVEN TO THEIR PARENTS. 923 00:59:50,821 --> 00:59:53,490 Dotts: THE FIRST BIT OF PARANOIA-- 924 00:59:53,557 --> 00:59:57,795 ONE OF THE MOTHERS IN THE PHILIPPINES ONE DAY DISAPPEARED. 925 01:00:18,448 --> 01:00:22,186 THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE LOOKING FOR POTENTIAL HEIRS 926 01:00:22,252 --> 01:00:26,924 THAT THEY COULD REPRESENT IN SAIPAN. 927 01:00:26,991 --> 01:00:29,426 PRIVATE DETECTIVES WERE HIRED, 928 01:00:29,493 --> 01:00:31,762 AND THE WORD WAS PUT OUT. 929 01:00:31,829 --> 01:00:34,331 THEY WENT TO BARS AND POSTED SIGN THAT-- 930 01:00:34,398 --> 01:00:38,168 IF YOU KNOW THIS MAN, YOU MIGHT GET A LOT OF MONEY. 931 01:00:41,371 --> 01:00:43,941 ONE OF THE INVESTIGATORS FOUND MERCEDES, 932 01:00:44,008 --> 01:00:46,176 WHO WAS, AT THE TIME, PREGNANT. 933 01:00:50,447 --> 01:00:53,951 Dotts: THE PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR WAS HOLDING HER HOSTAGE. 934 01:00:54,018 --> 01:00:55,986 Manlapaz: THIS WAS JUST A 14-YEAR-OLD. 935 01:00:56,053 --> 01:00:59,089 SHE WAS EIGHT MONTHS PREGNANT AT THE TIME. 936 01:01:06,296 --> 01:01:09,967 THEY WANTED HER TO BE BROUGHT TO SAIPAN. 937 01:01:10,034 --> 01:01:12,336 BUT, BEFORE DOING THAT, 938 01:01:12,402 --> 01:01:16,841 THE CHILD WAS ASKED TO UNDERGO A CAESARIAN OPERATION 939 01:01:16,907 --> 01:01:19,376 INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH A NORMAL DELIVERY. 940 01:01:19,443 --> 01:01:21,445 THERE WAS A DEADLINE COMING UP FOR CLAIMS, 941 01:01:21,511 --> 01:01:24,648 AND THEY WANTED THE BABY BORN BEFORE THE DEADLINE. 942 01:01:24,715 --> 01:01:29,353 THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE KID THAT SHE WAS CARRYING AT THE TIME 943 01:01:29,419 --> 01:01:33,690 WOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE THESE CAUCASIAN FEATURES, 944 01:01:33,758 --> 01:01:36,827 OR AT LEAST LOOK LIKE LARRY. 945 01:01:39,363 --> 01:01:42,666 WE WERE ABLE TO RESCUE HER FROM THAT HOUSE. 946 01:01:42,733 --> 01:01:47,404 SHE WASN'T EVEN AWARE THAT LARRY WAS DEAD AT THAT TIME. 947 01:01:47,471 --> 01:01:50,808 AND, ACCORDING TO HER, SHE WAS WAITING FOR LARRY, 948 01:01:50,875 --> 01:01:53,778 BECAUSE LARRY PROMISED TO COME BACK 949 01:01:53,844 --> 01:01:57,514 AND, ACCORDING TO HER, MARRY HER. 950 01:01:57,581 --> 01:02:01,318 SO, WE ASKED HER IF SHE WAS REALLY CARRYING THE CHILD OF LARRY, 951 01:02:01,385 --> 01:02:04,254 AND SHE SAID SHE WAS POSITIVE. 952 01:02:07,758 --> 01:02:35,719 WE ALSO FELT THREATENED. 953 01:02:35,786 --> 01:02:38,655 YOU'RE JUST IN TIME FOR THE MOST INFORMATIVE HALF-HOUR OF YOUR DAY. 954 01:02:38,722 --> 01:02:40,324 HERE'S WHAT'S AHEAD. 955 01:02:40,390 --> 01:02:42,927 WITH HIS CLAIM AGAINST THE HILLBLOM ESTATE, 956 01:02:42,993 --> 01:02:45,963 JUNIOR LARRY HILLBROOM WILL HAVE QUITE A TALE 957 01:02:46,030 --> 01:02:48,032 TO TELL HIS OWN KIDS. 958 01:02:48,098 --> 01:02:49,666 BUT, FOR ALL THE ARGUING, 959 01:02:49,733 --> 01:02:51,768 ALL THE HEARINGS, ALL THE PUBLICITY, 960 01:02:51,836 --> 01:02:54,604 NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE HAS BEEN PUT BEFORE THE COURT 961 01:02:54,671 --> 01:02:58,075 TO PROVE THESE CHILDREN EITHER ARE OR ARE NOT 962 01:02:58,142 --> 01:03:00,811 CHILDREN OF LARRY HILLBLOM. 963 01:03:00,878 --> 01:03:02,813 AT THAT POINT, THE ONLY THING WE HAD DONE 964 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,381 IS PRESERVE THE ASSETS. 965 01:03:04,448 --> 01:03:08,652 WE HAD MADE NO PROGRESS IN DEMONSTRATING PATERNITY. 966 01:03:08,718 --> 01:03:12,823 AND THEN, OUT OF NOWHERE, POPS UP LARRY HILLBLOM DNA. 967 01:03:16,226 --> 01:03:18,728 SOMEWAY, SOMEHOW, WE FOUND OUT 968 01:03:18,795 --> 01:03:22,366 THAT THERE WAS A MOLE THAT WAS EXCISED FROM LARRY'S FACE 969 01:03:22,432 --> 01:03:26,236 WHEN HE HAD SOME RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGERY. 970 01:03:26,303 --> 01:03:31,008 NOW, WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT MOLE IS ANOTHER STORY. 971 01:03:34,578 --> 01:03:37,948 WE KNEW THAT THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF EVIDENCE 972 01:03:38,015 --> 01:03:40,985 THAT COULD EITHER MAKE OR BREAK THE CASE 973 01:03:41,051 --> 01:03:44,922 OF THE CHILDREN-- 974 01:03:44,989 --> 01:03:50,094 ALLEGED CHILDREN. 975 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,330 AGREED THAT WE WOULD TRY TO DNA OUT OF IT. 976 01:03:55,732 --> 01:03:59,236 Israel: THE DEPOSITION WAS SCHEDULED, AND THE DOCTOR WALKED IN. 977 01:03:59,303 --> 01:04:02,940 HE REACHED INTO HIS POCKET AND THREW IT ON THE TABLE. 978 01:04:09,313 --> 01:04:11,115 IT WAS LIKE IT WASN'T EVEN REAL, 979 01:04:11,181 --> 01:04:13,850 LIKE IT WAS A JOKE. 980 01:04:13,918 --> 01:04:17,787 EVERY TIME WE TURNED AROUND, THERE WAS SOMEBODY WITH A CONFLICT OF INTEREST 981 01:04:17,854 --> 01:04:19,556 WORKING AGAINST US. 982 01:04:19,623 --> 01:04:21,558 THE DAVIES MEDICAL CENTER STOOD TO BENEFIT 983 01:04:21,625 --> 01:04:24,528 FROM THE MONEY COMING OUT OF THE FOUNDATION. 984 01:04:24,594 --> 01:04:26,897 YOU KNOW, FOR ALL WE KNOW, THEY'LL PUT SOMEONE IN THERE, 985 01:04:26,964 --> 01:04:31,568 SO THAT WAY, FOR SURE, IT'S GONNA COME UP THAT THEY DON'T MATCH. 986 01:04:31,635 --> 01:04:33,670 WAS THAT THEIR MOTIVATION? I DON'T KNOW. 987 01:04:33,737 --> 01:04:35,572 BUT IT SURE LOOKED LIKE IT TO US. 988 01:04:35,639 --> 01:04:38,242 SO, OF COURSE WE WERE ALL SUSPICIOUS. 989 01:04:38,308 --> 01:04:41,045 WE WERE SCARED OF THAT. ( laughs ) 990 01:04:41,111 --> 01:04:44,048 WE DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. 991 01:04:44,114 --> 01:04:46,483 SO, IT WAS NEVER OPENED. 992 01:04:48,218 --> 01:04:50,454 I'M JUST A NAIVE SCIENTIST. 993 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,190 I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THESE, UH... 994 01:04:53,257 --> 01:04:56,260 DERRING-DO PLOTS AND INTRIGUES. 995 01:05:01,598 --> 01:05:04,334 YOU COULDN'T HELP BUT BE ANGRY 996 01:05:04,401 --> 01:05:06,636 BECAUSE OF THE CONSTANT ASSAULT, YOU KNOW? 997 01:05:06,703 --> 01:05:10,274 THEY WERE CONSTANTLY, CONSTANTLY, 998 01:05:10,340 --> 01:05:13,110 TRYING TO SCREW YOU. 999 01:05:20,684 --> 01:05:23,954 THEY WAKE UP ONE MORNING, AND THERE'S A NEW LAW IN PLACE. 1000 01:05:27,657 --> 01:05:29,493 IT WAS KNOWN AS THE "HILLBLOM LAW", 1001 01:05:29,559 --> 01:05:31,628 AND THIS LAW WAS VERY SIMPLE. 1002 01:05:31,695 --> 01:05:34,331 IT DISINHERITED ILLEGITIMATE CHILDREN. 1003 01:05:39,103 --> 01:05:43,107 AND THE WHOLE THING HAD BEEN ENGINEERED BY DONNICI AND COMPANY. 1004 01:05:43,173 --> 01:05:45,842 Newscaster: THE FORMER EXECUTOR OF THE HILLBLOM ESTATE 1005 01:05:45,909 --> 01:05:49,046 ADMITTED FROM THE START THAT THE BILL TO CHANGE THE PROBATE LAW 1006 01:05:49,113 --> 01:05:50,880 BEGAN WITH HIM. 1007 01:05:50,947 --> 01:05:53,883 THE HILLBLOM LAW WAS CHECKMATE 1008 01:05:53,950 --> 01:05:55,285 FOR THE CHILDREN, 1009 01:05:55,352 --> 01:05:57,654 AND IT APPLIED RETROACTIVELY. 1010 01:05:57,721 --> 01:06:00,324 IT'S UNPRECEDENTED. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS 1011 01:06:00,390 --> 01:06:03,693 THAT NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, 1012 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,696 INCLUDING ANYTHING LIKE THE HILLBLOM LAW. 1013 01:06:06,763 --> 01:06:08,999 EVERYTHING IS NOT SURPRISING... 1014 01:06:09,066 --> 01:06:10,267 EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE IN SAIPAN. 1015 01:06:10,334 --> 01:06:12,669 ...AND POSSIBLE IN SAIPAN. 1016 01:06:12,736 --> 01:06:15,472 Dotts: THERE WERE SUSPICIONS THAT PERHAPS THE HILLBLOM BILL 1017 01:06:15,539 --> 01:06:17,174 PASSED BY BRIBERY. 1018 01:06:18,508 --> 01:06:21,111 AT THAT TIME, THERE WERE PROMISES OF DONATIONS 1019 01:06:21,178 --> 01:06:24,381 BY THE TRUST, RAISING RED FLAGS. 1020 01:06:24,448 --> 01:06:28,285 AN ENORMOUS SETBACK TO THE PLAINTIFFS. 1021 01:06:28,352 --> 01:06:30,054 PETE DONNICI, JOE WAECHTER-- 1022 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:36,426 THEY WERE SO TAKEN UP WITH THE FIGHT 1023 01:06:36,493 --> 01:06:39,363 WHICH REALLY MEANS, "HOW CAN WE DISINHERIT LARRY'S SON?" 1024 01:06:39,429 --> 01:06:42,199 WHICH IS NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 1025 01:06:42,266 --> 01:06:45,402 DISINHERITING CHILDREN IS NOT THE RIGHT THING. 1026 01:06:47,771 --> 01:06:50,774 I DON'T THINK THAT LARRY'S FRIENDS LOOKED AT WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS WOULD BE 1027 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,944 OF SOME LAW LIKE THAT FOR OTHER PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND. 1028 01:06:55,011 --> 01:06:58,682 WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE PHENOMENON OF THE UGLY AMERICAN. 1029 01:06:58,748 --> 01:07:02,286 I MEAN, AMERICANS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF LOCALS. 1030 01:07:02,352 --> 01:07:04,388 WITH OUR MONEY, WITH OUR CLOUT, 1031 01:07:04,454 --> 01:07:07,657 WE'VE GOT THE POWER, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. BOOM. 1032 01:07:07,724 --> 01:07:13,863 YOU KNOW, I'VE REPRESENTED MURDERERS AND RAPISTS AND... 1033 01:07:13,930 --> 01:07:18,602 ALL KINDS OF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ACCUSED OF... 1034 01:07:18,668 --> 01:07:24,174 VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, HEINOUS CRIMES. 1035 01:07:24,241 --> 01:07:27,444 I JUST THOUGHT THESE PEOPLE WERE WORSE. 1036 01:07:27,511 --> 01:07:30,880 BECAUSE THESE ARE SUPPOSEDLY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE, 1037 01:07:30,947 --> 01:07:34,884 AND PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT WERE BUSINESSMEN, 1038 01:07:34,951 --> 01:07:40,357 PEOPLE THAT ARE HELD UP AS UPRIGHT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY 1039 01:07:40,424 --> 01:07:43,093 AND ALL THOSE THINGS. 1040 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,995 YOU KNOW, IT WAS DISGUSTING. 1041 01:07:46,062 --> 01:07:47,897 HOW DO YOU OVERCOME THIS? 1042 01:07:47,964 --> 01:07:51,468 HERE, BY THIS TIME, WE'RE INTO IT PRETTY DEEPLY, 1043 01:07:51,535 --> 01:07:54,471 AND WE WERE PRETTY MUCH OUT OF MONEY. 1044 01:08:06,216 --> 01:08:09,119 ( gavel pounds ) 1045 01:08:18,728 --> 01:08:21,531 LUJAN SHOULD HAVE LOST IT ALL, 1046 01:08:21,598 --> 01:08:24,268 BUT THESE GUYS SIMPLY WON'T TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER. 1047 01:08:24,334 --> 01:08:28,405 IT WAS KIND OF THE FINAL STRAW, I SUPPOSE. 1048 01:08:28,472 --> 01:08:31,808 IT WAS THERMONUCLEAR WAR AFTER THAT. 1049 01:08:31,875 --> 01:08:36,280 I WENT AFTER THEM WITH A VENGEANCE. 1050 01:08:36,346 --> 01:08:39,149 ( train horn sounds ) 1051 01:08:43,287 --> 01:08:44,988 Dotts: THERE WAS A RUMOR THAT LARRY'S MOTHER 1052 01:08:45,054 --> 01:08:47,491 HAD BEEN HOSPITALIZED BECAUSE OF HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, 1053 01:08:47,557 --> 01:08:49,859 AND A NURSE HAD COME INTO HER ROOM 1054 01:08:49,926 --> 01:08:53,530 AND TAKEN A SWAB OF THE INSIDE OF HER CHEEK. 1055 01:08:55,799 --> 01:08:58,302 AND THEN SHE LATER ASKED SOMEBODY, 1056 01:08:58,368 --> 01:08:59,969 "WHY DID THEY DO THAT?" 1057 01:09:00,036 --> 01:09:02,239 AND THEY CHECKED THE RECORDS, AND THERE WAS NO RECORD 1058 01:09:02,306 --> 01:09:04,541 OF ANY NURSE HAVING COME INTO HER ROOM 1059 01:09:04,608 --> 01:09:07,043 AND TAKEN A SAMPLE OF THE INSIDE OF HER CHEEK. 1060 01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:09,246 TAKING A SAMPLE OF THE INSIDE OF THE CHEEK 1061 01:09:09,313 --> 01:09:12,682 IS A VERY TYPICAL WAY OF GETTING A DNA SAMPLE, 1062 01:09:12,749 --> 01:09:14,851 IT'S A VERY EASY WAY TO GET A DNA SAMPLE. 1063 01:09:14,918 --> 01:09:17,587 AND IT WAS DAVID-- THE ONE WHO WAS ACCUSED-- 1064 01:09:17,654 --> 01:09:20,324 THE GROUP OF DAVID LUJAN-- WHO WAS ACCUSED OF DOING THAT. 1065 01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:22,125 BUT, OF COURSE, THEY DENIED IT. 1066 01:09:22,192 --> 01:09:25,295 THERE'S SOME ACCUSATIONS MADE. 1067 01:09:28,832 --> 01:09:31,301 SHORTLY AFTER THAT INCIDENT HAPPENED, 1068 01:09:31,368 --> 01:09:33,603 DAVID LUJAN ANNOUNCED THAT-- 1069 01:09:33,670 --> 01:09:37,341 THAT HE KNEW, TO A SCIENTIFIC CERTAINTY, 1070 01:09:37,407 --> 01:09:40,076 THAT JUNIOR WAS LARRY'S CHILD. 1071 01:09:40,143 --> 01:09:42,846 BUT HE REFUSED TO SAY HOW HE KNEW. 1072 01:10:07,837 --> 01:10:09,906 I FELT THAT WE COULD WIN THIS, 1073 01:10:09,973 --> 01:10:13,777 NO MATTER WHAT THE INHERITANCE LAW SAID. 1074 01:10:13,843 --> 01:10:18,348 WE WANTED TO POUND THEM, BEAT THEM, DESTROY THEM, 1075 01:10:18,415 --> 01:10:22,852 SO THAT THEY'RE CRAWLING TO COME TO THE BARGAINING TABLE. 1076 01:10:22,919 --> 01:10:25,622 LUJAN PRICKS THE INTEREST OF NBC, 1077 01:10:25,689 --> 01:10:29,025 AND DATELINE DOES A STORY ON THE CASE. 1078 01:10:29,092 --> 01:10:31,695 BUSINESSMAN LARRY HILLBLOM, WHO WAS KILLED IN A PLANE CRASH, 1079 01:10:31,761 --> 01:10:35,098 LEFT THE BULK OF HIS ESTATE-- HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS-- 1080 01:10:35,164 --> 01:10:37,100 TO MEDICAL RESEARCH, 1081 01:10:37,166 --> 01:10:39,235 BUT THERE ARE THOSE WHO SAY HE LEFT SOMETHING ELSE BEHIND. 1082 01:10:39,303 --> 01:10:42,406 JUNIOR, WHAT'S YOUR NAME? LARRY HILLBROOM, JR. 1083 01:10:42,472 --> 01:10:44,741 THIS PALAUAN BOY, CALLED JUNIOR LARRY, 1084 01:10:44,808 --> 01:10:48,578 WAS BORN NINE MONTHS AFTER LARRY HILLBLOM HAD VISITED PALAU. 1085 01:10:48,645 --> 01:10:50,647 KAELANI, HOW OLD WERE YOU 1086 01:10:50,714 --> 01:10:54,117 WHEN YOU MET LARRY HILLBLOM? 16. 1087 01:10:54,183 --> 01:10:56,152 IS IT POSSIBLE THAT HE SLEPT WITH KAELANI KINNEY? 1088 01:10:56,219 --> 01:10:57,421 ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. 1089 01:10:57,487 --> 01:10:59,289 DO YOU THINK HE DID? 1090 01:10:59,356 --> 01:11:01,425 I DON'T KNOW. UM... 1091 01:11:01,491 --> 01:11:04,428 IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE SHE WOULD'VE BEEN LARRY'S TYPE. 1092 01:11:04,494 --> 01:11:07,664 WITH THE DATELINE EXPOSURE, DONNICI CAN NO LONGER HIDE 1093 01:11:07,731 --> 01:11:10,334 IN THE SHADOWS OF SAIPAN AND THE PHILIPPINES. 1094 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,736 IT FORCED DONNICI TO SPEAK. 1095 01:11:12,802 --> 01:11:17,173 THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRYING TO KEEP MONEY AWAY FROM CHILDREN 1096 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,309 WHO MAY BE LARRY'S. 1097 01:11:19,376 --> 01:11:21,811 THIS IS ABOUT GREEDY LAWYERS. 1098 01:11:21,878 --> 01:11:25,114 DONNICI REALLY FEARED BADLY IN THAT INTERVIEW. 1099 01:11:25,181 --> 01:11:28,585 THESE ARE NOT THE INNOCENT YOUNG VIRGINS. 1100 01:11:28,652 --> 01:11:31,921 THESE ARE EXPERIENCED BAR GIRLS. 1101 01:11:31,988 --> 01:11:34,958 THERE'S FILIPINA BAR GIRL MERCEDES FELICIANO. 1102 01:11:35,024 --> 01:11:38,161 MERCEDES WAS INTRODUCED TO HILLBLOM IN ONE OF THOSE BARS, 1103 01:11:38,227 --> 01:11:40,730 WHO SHE SAYS SUPPORTED HER AND HER FAMILY 1104 01:11:40,797 --> 01:11:43,567 UNTIL SHE HAD HER FIRST PERIOD. 1105 01:11:43,633 --> 01:11:46,470 THEN HE PAID HER $2,000 FOR HER VIRGINITY. 1106 01:11:46,536 --> 01:11:48,137 HE WAS THE ONLY MAN? 1107 01:11:48,204 --> 01:11:52,075 THAT'S WHEN I BELIEVE THE TIDE STARTED TO CHANGE. 1108 01:11:52,141 --> 01:11:54,611 WHAT YOU HAVE IS A NATIONAL TV SHOW 1109 01:11:54,678 --> 01:11:56,913 WHERE THE TRUTH IS EMERGING. 1110 01:11:58,748 --> 01:12:02,586 AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER BIZARRE TURN OF EVENTS. 1111 01:12:07,123 --> 01:12:09,526 EVERYONE SHOULD GO TO THE DAVID LUJAN SCHOOL 1112 01:12:09,593 --> 01:12:16,933 OF HOW TO PREPARE A BILL, 1113 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,503 YOU KNOW, BILLS THAT INCLUDE THEIR TIME CHARGES, 1114 01:12:19,569 --> 01:12:21,204 AND THEY INCLUDE THEIR RECEIPTS 1115 01:12:21,270 --> 01:12:24,040 FOR WHATEVER THEY SPENT DURING THAT MONTH. 1116 01:12:24,107 --> 01:12:28,378 AND DAVID IS THE ONE WHO FOUND THE MURIATIC ACID BILL, 1117 01:12:28,445 --> 01:12:30,380 WHICH WAS HUGE. 1118 01:12:32,248 --> 01:12:36,920 THE ESTATE LAWYERS SUBMIT TO THE ESTATE 1119 01:12:36,986 --> 01:12:39,723 A SERIES OF EXPENSE ACCOUNTS, 1120 01:12:39,789 --> 01:12:42,025 AND INCLUDED HERE-- THERE IT IS. 1121 01:12:44,494 --> 01:12:46,963 MURIATIC ACID? 1122 01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:49,365 MURIATIC ACID THAT HAD BEEN POURED DOWN THE DRAINS 1123 01:12:49,433 --> 01:12:50,934 TO DESTROY EVIDENCE. 1124 01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,036 LUJAN-- 1125 01:12:53,102 --> 01:12:56,272 HE'D METICULOUSLY GO THROUGH BILL AFTER BILL AFTER BILL. 1126 01:12:56,339 --> 01:12:59,008 WELL... 1127 01:12:59,075 --> 01:13:00,710 THE DEVIL REALLY IS IN THE DETAILS, 1128 01:13:00,777 --> 01:13:02,579 AND DAVID REALLY KNEW THAT. 1129 01:13:04,581 --> 01:13:09,252 OF COURSE, WE WERE SO ANGRY WHEN WE LEARNED ABOUT IT, 1130 01:13:09,318 --> 01:13:11,721 BECAUSE WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TRYING TO PROVE 1131 01:13:11,788 --> 01:13:13,857 THAT THESE KIDS ARE LARRY'S KIDS. 1132 01:13:13,923 --> 01:13:16,292 THESE GUYS-- 1133 01:13:16,359 --> 01:13:18,327 WAECHTER AND DONNICI-- 1134 01:13:18,394 --> 01:13:22,866 WANT YOU TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S JUST A PROBATE CASE. 1135 01:13:22,932 --> 01:13:26,069 IT'S NOT A PROBATE CASE. IT'S A CRIMINAL CASE. 1136 01:13:26,135 --> 01:13:29,105 I MEAN, IF NOTHING ELSE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ATTEMPT 1137 01:13:29,172 --> 01:13:32,141 TO DEFRAUD ON A MASSIVE SCALE. 1138 01:13:32,208 --> 01:13:34,711 THIS IS A FELONY. YOU GO TO JAIL FOR 15 OR 20 YEARS 1139 01:13:34,778 --> 01:13:36,746 FOR THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR. 1140 01:13:36,813 --> 01:13:39,449 Israel: CLEARLY, WHEN THEY POURED ACID IN THE DRAINS, 1141 01:13:39,516 --> 01:13:41,985 THEY KNEW THAT THERE WAS A CHILD OUT THERE. 1142 01:13:42,051 --> 01:13:43,987 OTHERWISE, WHY WOULD THEY HAVE DONE IT? 1143 01:13:44,053 --> 01:13:46,322 WHERE BIG MONEY IS CONCERNED, 1144 01:13:46,389 --> 01:13:49,459 PEOPLE DO FUNNY THINGS. 1145 01:14:00,403 --> 01:14:02,105 IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF TIME 1146 01:14:02,171 --> 01:14:04,841 BEFORE WHAT HAPPENED TO LARRY'S CLOTHES WAS DISCOVERED 1147 01:14:06,142 --> 01:14:08,645 JOSEPHINE SAYS, "GUESS WHAT, GUYS? 1148 01:14:08,712 --> 01:14:12,616 GET A BACKHOE AND DIG A HOLE OUT BEHIND LARRY'S OLD HOUSE." 1149 01:14:12,682 --> 01:14:17,654 JOSEPHINE HAD BEEN ASKED BY THE EXECUTOR TO DESTROY EVIDENCE, 1150 01:14:17,721 --> 01:14:21,190 AND THIS WAS AT A TIME BEFORE I REPRESENTED HER. 1151 01:14:21,257 --> 01:14:24,561 SHE WAS BASICALLY ASKED TO TAKE ALL OF LARRY'S BELONGINGS-- 1152 01:14:24,628 --> 01:14:26,830 HAIRBRUSHES, TOOTHBRUSHES, CLOTHING, 1153 01:14:26,896 --> 01:14:29,766 ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAVE DNA-- AND BURN IT. 1154 01:14:29,833 --> 01:14:32,235 WHEN JOE WAECHTER CALLED HER UP 1155 01:14:32,301 --> 01:14:34,203 AND ASKED HER TO DO THIS, 1156 01:14:34,270 --> 01:14:37,541 JOSEPHINE KIND OF REALIZED THIS MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 1157 01:14:37,607 --> 01:14:44,180 SO, INSTEAD OF BURNING THE CLOTHES, 1158 01:14:44,247 --> 01:14:46,683 AND THEN SHE REPORTED BACK TO JOE WAECHTER 1159 01:14:46,750 --> 01:15:01,197 THAT EVERYTHING WAS GONE. 1160 01:15:01,264 --> 01:15:03,733 Newscaster: ACCORDING TO NORCASA, THE SAME MAN WHO DENIED 1161 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,335 LARRY HILLBLOM HAD ILLEGITIMATE CHILDREN 1162 01:15:06,402 --> 01:15:09,806 WAS SCRAMBLING TO GET RID OF EVIDENCE THAT THERE WERE ANY. 1163 01:15:31,561 --> 01:15:34,363 HOWEVER, WAECHTER TESTIFIED THAT IT WAS NORCASA WHO CALLED HIM, 1164 01:15:34,430 --> 01:15:38,668 ASKING IF SHE COULD GET RID OF THE BELONGINGS. 1165 01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,875 WAECHTER TESTIFIED NORCASA GOT RID OF THE BELONGINGS 1166 01:15:45,942 --> 01:15:48,612 AS PART OF SOME FILIPINO RITUAL. 1167 01:15:48,678 --> 01:15:50,413 ( both laugh ) 1168 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,416 SO, WE DID WHAT WAS THE PRACTICAL THING TO DO-- 1169 01:15:53,482 --> 01:15:54,818 WE HIRED A BACKHOE OPERATOR, 1170 01:15:54,884 --> 01:15:57,120 WE WANDERED AROUND THIS BIG, HUGE, 1171 01:15:57,186 --> 01:16:01,190 BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY OVERLOOKING THE BAY. 1172 01:16:01,257 --> 01:16:03,259 AND WE HAD THIS GUY DIG IN ALL THESE DIFFERENT PLACES, 1173 01:16:03,326 --> 01:16:06,329 ALL OF US STANDING AROUND IN THE TROPICAL SUN, 1174 01:16:06,395 --> 01:16:07,731 AND WE WEREN'T FINDING IT. 1175 01:16:07,797 --> 01:16:12,501 AND SO, FINALLY, THIS BACKHOE OPERATOR-- 1176 01:16:12,568 --> 01:16:16,606 SAID, "WELL, YOU WANT TO KNOW LARRY'S CLOTHES ARE BURIED?" 1177 01:16:16,673 --> 01:16:18,207 AND WE SAID, "WELL, YEAH." 1178 01:16:18,274 --> 01:16:21,010 AND HE SAID, "WELL, I KNOW, BECAUSE I BURIED THEM." 1179 01:16:21,077 --> 01:16:24,347 AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT, "WELL, GOD... 1180 01:16:24,413 --> 01:16:27,450 THERE PROBABLY IS ONLY ONE BACKHOE OPERATOR IN SAIPAN." 1181 01:16:27,516 --> 01:16:31,420 HE WENT RIGHT TO THE PLACE. HE DUG THEM UP. 1182 01:16:31,487 --> 01:16:36,259 THE CLOTHES, THE T-SHIRTS, JEANS, HAIRBRUSHES, TOOTHBRUSHES. 1183 01:16:36,325 --> 01:16:39,696 AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST THIS KIND OF REAL MOMENT OF SADNESS, 1184 01:16:39,763 --> 01:16:44,267 THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS MAN WAS WALKING AROUND WITH THESE CLOTHES. 1185 01:16:46,569 --> 01:16:48,204 HE WAS A REAL ALIVE PERSON. 1186 01:17:40,023 --> 01:17:42,191 WE'RE OUT HERE, A BUNCH OF-- 1187 01:17:42,258 --> 01:17:44,660 LIKE MYSELF, NOTHING BUT A CRIMINAL LAWYER-- 1188 01:17:44,728 --> 01:17:47,330 WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH THEM AND BEAT THEM 1189 01:17:47,396 --> 01:17:50,566 SIMPLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW-- IT'S NOT THAT I'M SMARTER. 1190 01:17:50,633 --> 01:17:53,102 IT'S THAT THEY WERE DUMBER. 1191 01:18:12,889 --> 01:18:14,357 IT WAS EXHILARATING 1192 01:18:14,423 --> 01:18:16,392 THAT, AFTER SEVERAL YEARS OF FIGHTING 1193 01:18:16,459 --> 01:18:18,862 AND HUNDREDS OF LAWYERS FROM BIG CITIES, 1194 01:18:18,928 --> 01:18:20,764 AGAINST ALL THE ODDS, 1195 01:18:20,830 --> 01:18:23,399 AGAINST EVERY ODD THAT YOU CAN THINK OF, 1196 01:18:23,466 --> 01:18:28,404 OUR CLIENT WAS NOW GOING TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED AS LARRY'S SON. 1197 01:18:28,471 --> 01:18:32,275 AND THE WHOLE WORLD WAS GOING TO OPEN UP TO HIM 1198 01:18:32,341 --> 01:18:35,378 IN A WAY THAT MOST OF US CAN NEVER EXPERIENCE. 1199 01:18:35,444 --> 01:18:40,049 AND WE DEMONSTRATED THAT WE BELONGED IN THAT COURTROOM. 1200 01:18:49,625 --> 01:18:52,395 IT WAS A MOUNTAIN THAT NEEDED TO BE CLIMBED. 1201 01:18:52,461 --> 01:18:54,363 AND, YOU KNOW, I WASN'T ABOUT TO GIVE UP 1202 01:18:54,430 --> 01:18:58,034 UNTIL I RAISED THAT FLAG ON THE TOP OF THAT MOUNTAIN. 1203 01:18:58,101 --> 01:19:03,239 * TROUBLE IN MIND 1204 01:19:03,306 --> 01:19:06,943 * I'M BLUE 1205 01:19:07,010 --> 01:19:10,847 * BUT I WON'T BE BLUE 1206 01:19:10,914 --> 01:19:13,449 * ALWAYS... 1207 01:19:13,516 --> 01:19:16,285 IT'S KIND OF IRONIC THAT, ULTIMATELY, 1208 01:19:16,352 --> 01:19:18,721 WITH ALL THE HUE AND CRY OVER LARRY'S DNA 1209 01:19:18,788 --> 01:19:22,959 AND THE HIDING OF IT, AND THE ACCUSATIONS ABOUT IT, 1210 01:19:23,026 --> 01:19:25,594 YOU KNOW, IT NEVER REALLY WAS NECESSARY. 1211 01:19:25,661 --> 01:19:27,130 WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF KIDS 1212 01:19:27,196 --> 01:19:29,232 THAT CLAIM TO HAVE THE SAME FATHER. 1213 01:19:29,298 --> 01:19:34,537 SO, WHY DON'T WE TEST THE CHILDREN THEMSELVES? 1214 01:19:34,603 --> 01:19:36,505 AND SO, THAT'S THE TESTING 1215 01:19:36,572 --> 01:19:39,175 THAT SHOWED JUNIOR, TWO FILIPINO KIDS, 1216 01:19:39,242 --> 01:19:42,912 AND A CHILD IN VIETNAM, HAVE THE SAME FATHER. 1217 01:19:42,979 --> 01:19:46,950 WE USED TO CALL IT "THE LUCKY SPERM CLUB". 1218 01:19:47,016 --> 01:19:49,085 WE BECAME FRIENDS WITH DAVID 1219 01:19:49,152 --> 01:19:50,987 WHEN WE GOT THE RESULTS, 1220 01:19:51,054 --> 01:19:53,056 THE DNA CROSS-TESTING RESULTS. 1221 01:19:53,122 --> 01:19:55,458 HE CALLED US UP AND SAID, "WE'RE A FAMILY." 1222 01:19:55,524 --> 01:19:59,028 I WANTED TO GO WITH HIS MOTHER AND SEE THE CHILDREN. 1223 01:19:59,095 --> 01:20:02,798 I SAID, "WHY DON'T YOU AND I JUST TAKE A TRIP 1224 01:20:02,866 --> 01:20:06,870 AND SEE THE CHILDREN? I THINK YOU--" 1225 01:20:06,936 --> 01:20:10,406 I THOUGHT SHE WOULD BE ANXIOUS. 1226 01:20:10,473 --> 01:20:13,076 BUT SHE DIDN'T. 1227 01:20:13,142 --> 01:20:18,347 SHE, UH, REFUSED TO BELIEVE IT, REALLY. 1228 01:20:18,414 --> 01:20:20,583 I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS WITH HIM EMOTIONALLY 1229 01:20:20,649 --> 01:20:22,485 THAT HE WAS IN SUCH DENIAL, 1230 01:20:22,551 --> 01:20:25,021 BECAUSE THEY'VE PROVEN NOW THERE IS AT LEAST FOUR-- 1231 01:20:25,088 --> 01:20:27,390 MAYBE MORE--KIDS. 1232 01:20:27,456 --> 01:20:30,860 THAT PART OF HIM, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND. 1233 01:20:30,927 --> 01:20:34,898 THE POSSIBILITY EXISTS THAT HE HAD SET THIS WHOLE THING UP. 1234 01:20:34,964 --> 01:20:39,102 LARRY WOULD'VE LOVED THE HILLBLOM ESTATE LITIGATION. 1235 01:20:39,168 --> 01:20:42,505 HE LIKED LAWSUITS, HE LIKED THE BATTLE. 1236 01:20:42,571 --> 01:20:45,141 HE WAS ALWAYS GETTING INVOLVED IN CASES AND LAWSUITS 1237 01:20:45,208 --> 01:20:47,410 AND PLOTTING STRATEGIES. 1238 01:20:47,476 --> 01:20:49,879 AND IF HE COULD'VE-- IF HE CAN SIT IN HEAVEN 1239 01:20:49,946 --> 01:20:52,882 AND LOOK DOWN ON THE HILLBLOM PROCEEDINGS, 1240 01:20:52,949 --> 01:20:54,984 HE PROBABLY WOULD'VE ENJOYED IT IMMENSELY-- 1241 01:20:55,051 --> 01:20:59,755 THE BATTLE THAT RAGED BECAUSE OF HOW HIS WILL WAS UNCLEAR 1242 01:20:59,822 --> 01:21:01,290 AND THE BODY WAS NOT FOUND. 1243 01:21:01,357 --> 01:21:02,725 WHO KNOWS? 1244 01:21:02,791 --> 01:21:05,028 THE FACT IS, PEOPLE SAY HE MIGHT STILL BE ALIVE. 1245 01:21:05,094 --> 01:21:07,964 WHO KNOWS, YOU KNOW? THAT'S LARRY. HE MIGHT SHOW UP SOMEWHERE. 1246 01:21:08,031 --> 01:21:09,165 ( laughs ) 1247 01:21:09,232 --> 01:21:14,470 * ...BE BLUE ALWAYS 1248 01:21:14,537 --> 01:21:18,774 * 'CAUSE THE SUN'S GONNA SHINE * 1249 01:21:18,841 --> 01:21:21,677 * IN MY BACK DOOR 1250 01:21:21,744 --> 01:21:24,147 * SOMEDAY 1251 01:23:09,218 --> 01:23:14,023 * TROUBLE IN MIND 1252 01:23:14,090 --> 01:23:18,027 * I'M BLUE 1253 01:23:18,094 --> 01:23:20,063 * BUT I WON'T 1254 01:23:20,129 --> 01:23:25,434 * BE BLUE ALWAYS 1255 01:23:25,501 --> 01:23:30,173 * 'CAUSE THAT SUN'S GONNA SHINE * 1256 01:23:30,239 --> 01:23:33,909 * IN MY BACK DOOR 1257 01:23:33,976 --> 01:23:36,645 * SOMEDAY 1258 01:24:13,382 --> 01:24:18,087 * TROUBLE IN MIND 1259 01:24:18,154 --> 01:24:21,624 * I'M BLUE 1260 01:24:21,690 --> 01:24:24,260 * BUT I WON'T 1261 01:24:24,327 --> 01:24:29,498 * BE BLUE ALWAYS 1262 01:24:29,565 --> 01:24:34,170 * 'CAUSE THAT'S SUN'S GONNA SHINE * 1263 01:24:34,237 --> 01:24:38,073 * ON MY BACKDOOR 1264 01:24:38,141 --> 01:24:41,710 * SOMEDAY 1265 01:25:17,346 --> 01:25:22,017 * TROUBLE IN MIND 1266 01:25:22,084 --> 01:25:25,221 * I'M BLUE 1267 01:25:25,288 --> 01:25:28,191 * BUT I WON'T 1268 01:25:28,257 --> 01:25:33,762 * BE BLUE ALWAYS 1269 01:25:33,829 --> 01:25:38,100 * 'CAUSE THAT SUN'S GONNA SHINE * 1270 01:25:38,167 --> 01:25:42,037 * IN MY BACK DOOR 1271 01:25:42,104 --> 01:25:44,607 * SOMEDAY